On Tuesday, 2 January 2018 12:19:26 AM AEDT Andrew McGlashan via luv-main 
wrote:
> As I understand it, if you want to host an AWS EC2 server, you need to
> pay a "region" price for access to a region; it is my belief that it
> costs roughly $1500 per month, not sure if that is already in AUD or not.
> 
> Then, you pay per hour for the running machine and you pay again (even
> if only a little) for storage.

For a mail server you want an "elastic IP", that is an IP address that's 
permanently reserved for you.  It's free while you have an instance using it 
and you pay a reservation fee whenever you aren't using it (which is almost 
never for a mail server).

> To me, self-hosting a mail server makes much more sense; so, why would
> it make sense to set one up as an AWS EC2 instance?  Have I got the
> figures wrong?  Is that region charge an every month "once off" and then
> you can have as many servers there as you like?  Even if you pay for
> every server by the hour plus other costs?

https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver

Linode is generally good.  But in a later message you say you need 200G+ of 
storage.  For that Hetzner has a better offer, E39 per month for a server with 
2*4TB disks.  That has 32G of RAM so it will run ZFS or BTRFS nicely, I've run 
ZFS on Hetzner servers before, but I'm using BTRFS now.

> I know they [AWS] have an offer of 1 year free, but that translates to
> me as a fremium product; you'll pay through the nose after 12 months if
> you continue to require the service.

No they are actually quite reasonable about that.  But the 1 year of free 
service is for a micro instance (1G of RAM and 5G of S3).  It really won't do 
the job for you.

> The only other alternative to self hosting is a VPS, then you are RAM,
> CPU and storage limited, that is, unless you really pay for a beefed up
> server, and, of course, that will cost you dearly.

https://www.hetzner.com/sb

No, Hetzner is quite affordable.  If you want something really cheap they have 
"Server Bidding" which is a reverse auction.  They have old servers (ones that 
previous customers cancelled but which aren't worth throwing out) and reduce 
the offered price until someone buys.  Currently the cheapest is E26 per month 
for a system with 2*300G of storage and 2G of RAM.  But that's not a great 
deal, another is E31 per month for 2*3TB of storage and 16G of RAM.  That 
would run a nice virtual server.  You could run ZFS/BTRFS in the Dom0 and then 
run a few VMs on it.

https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/IP-Adressen/en

Hetzner charges just under E1 per month for extra IP addresses.  If you were 
to rent the E31 server and provide VMs to 3 friends then you would be each 
paying E9 per month and getting ~700G of storage and ~3G of RAM.  That's a way 
better deal than getting your own Linode instance, but relies on finding 
people to share with you.

As an aside the LUV VM is on a Hetzner server.  The system has 2*256G SSD, 
2*2TB HDD, and 48G of RAM.  I can't remember the price but I think it was 
something like E35 on Server Bidding which is a great deal if you want some 
fast storage for VM images as well as some big storage for large files.

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