On 21.10.15 18:14, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Trent W. Buck ([email protected]):
> 
> > If you have systemd, and you don't need to be an NTP *server*,
> > consider "systemctl enable systemd-timesyncd" instead.
> > This is installed but off by default in Debian 8;
> > AIUI it will be the default in Debian 9.
> 
> *cough*  Yes, stretch does indeed have this enabled by default.  On new
> systems, I'm inclining towards openntpd, http://www.openntpd.org/ .  

Any specific reason for preferring it over the Debian ntp package?
(I guess familiarity is often a biggie.)

> Of course, this is for the use-case of wanting to have a functional
> ongoing ntp daemon, not just a Microsoft-style SNTP client with no error
> checking, authentication, no tracking of jitter or delay, no ability to
> consult more than one NTP server, and no precaution against adjusting
> the time jumps backwards, which is what systemd-timesyncd is.

But ... but ... it wouldn't be Fully-Lennarted Systemdix without being
M$-monolithic and M$-degenerate, would it?

> One nice thing, if you have a real ntpd running (ISC's or OpenBSD
> Foundation's or Chrony), then systemd-timesyncd quits gracefully (on
> systems where I've tested this, at least).

One nice thing, IIUC, is that we can still chuck systemd out, in
favour of real discrete daemons, on install?

> And I personally feel much better running a real NTP implementation even
> on laptops.

After removing networking start from the startup scripts, in favour of
manual networking start, for the few occasions when one is tethered?

Erik
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