Jeremy Visser <[email protected]> writes:

> From a sysadmin perspective [systemd] makes my life easier by bringing
> service control up to (and beyond) the standard of Windows, which has
> been able to supervise processes since, gosh, I only started counting
> in Windows 2000.

So sort of like djb daemontools or (as you mentioned) upstart?
It's not like systemd is the first thing to do this in Linux.

> The syntax is not as friendly as upstart, but this is a minor detail.
> [...] and doesn't interfere with muscle memory by still being able to
> do "service foo restart".

upstart supports "service foo restart".

> From a sysadmin perspective killing off pesky child processes is SO
> last century.  You may well argue that every instance where child
> processes linger when the parent dies is a bug in the application.
> Well, good luck fixing every one.  I'll see you next millennium.  In
> the meantime, I'm enjoying getting actual work done.

Not sure what you mean by that.

> I find a good analogy for the way cgroups improves management is
> thinking about the ways in which virtualisation also improves
> management.

cgroups were also available long before systemd :-)

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