On 15/06/2014 10:39 AM, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:42:59 Andrew McGlashan wrote:
>> Yes on WiFi hotspot using Android, but most 2.x devices are too old to
>> support 4G or new, but too budget to have all the right radios.  The
>> biggest problem with older gear is the radios that are supported --
>> that's the biggest reason to /need/ to update mobile phones too.
> 
> Kogan was offering 6G per month before Telstra stopped them from being too 
> competitive.

Yes, we know all about that, no argument about Telstra there, but the
service was a limited type service anyway -- the way the plan worked was
wonky in itself, allowing them to /forever/ chop off the top users for
using too much of the /unlimited/ components that were included.

Please to help with clarity, use GB for quota and just G for network
capability.

> Aldi offered 5G per month for a reasonable price then 2.5G when Kogan wasn't 
> competing and have since made their offerings even worse value for money.
> 
> http://etbe.coker.com.au/2014/04/01/comparing-telcos-again/

Yes, but you have to go by current plans.

I have a mobile broadband only plan that gives me 10GB per month on 4G
on a month-by-month basis for $39.99 per month.  There are no calls or
SMS, but I've got a phone on a different plan for normal mobile phone
use that is very reasonable.  Unfortunately that phone plan is not
available to new users; I pay a dollar per month plus usage at very low
rate, said plan is mostly used for just incoming calls anyway.  I use
different options for outgoing calls generally.  In any case, this topic
is about broadband, not phone usage with broadband add-on.

2GB plans on 3G are available at $15.99 per month, also on
month-to-month contract.  5GB for $24.99 and 10GB at $34.99 -- the 4G
plan with 10GB is just $5 more than the 3G plan with same quota, but
with the potential for far greater speeds and also much less latency on
the 4G/4Gplus Optus network.

> I find it difficult to stick within the 2G per month limit of my phone plan 
> on 
> 3G.  I don't have problems with transfer speed, any transfer that is large 
> enough for 3G speed to be a problem is going to be a quota problem first.

That's probably because of the 1MB data chunks that I told you to be
wary of previously, but you never thought that was a problem.

> 3G downloads on my phone which has a 2G quota are 1/3 the speed of my home 
> ADSL which has a 150G quota.  If my phone quota was 50G per month then I 
> MIGHT 
> have a problem with 3G speed, but otherwise I won't.

Fair enough.

> Every Android phone I've ever owned has been able to play Youtube at normal 
> speed over 3G, that includes the Xperia X10i and Samsung Galaxy S.  It seems 
> to me that Youtube is the only common use of Android phones that involves 
> large time sensitive data transfers.

Okay.

>> Still, I think it is better to run a dedicated router, such as a Netgear
>> WND3700 or newer, just make sure it is supported -- of course this is
>> less good when you are out and about, but great for fixed locations --
>> you can use an inverter in the car, but it will be more hassle than just
>> using WiFi hotspot.
> 
> Of course an Android phone can be considered a "dedicated router".

Sure, an Android phone can be a "dedicated router", but you need to keep
it plugged in and the phone needs to be able to remain powered without
needing to unplug and replug the charger.  Having something like a
WNDR3700 (or newer, you probably can't get the 3700 now, unless second
hand from eBay, but that's probably not a good option due to shipping
costs as well as the low cost of brand new gear today with full
warranty), you also have gigabit networking ports available for wired
networking tasks.  If you don't want gigabit ports, then you can go much
cheaper with a TP-Link unit.

Cheers
A.
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