On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:42:32 +1000, Craig Sanders <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 01:56:16PM +1000, Terry Duell wrote:
>> I haven't explicitly mounted /boot on /mnt, as previous advice never
>> mentioned this.
>
> this may be where you are going wrong.
>
> if you are trying to reinstall grub, then it needs access to not only
> your root filesystem, but your /boot directory as well. if /boot is
> just a directory on / then mounting / alone as /mnt will be sufficient.
> if /boot is a separate partition, then it must also be mounted, as
> /mnt/boot.
>
> for example, if your rootfs (/) is /dev/sda1 and your /boot is /dev/sda2
> then to get to a good, working chroot environment for fixing a broken
> grub you'd do something a lot like this:
>
> 1. boot a live cd and get a root shell. if your installed distro is
> 64-bit then your live-cd must also be 64-bit otherwise you will not be
> able to chroot into it. i tend to use clonezilla because it has 64 and
> 32 bit versions and has every repair tool you might ever need. sometimes
> i use gparted.
>
> 2. run the following commands:
>
>     mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
>     mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot
>     for i in proc dev sys dev/pts ; do mount -o bind /$i /mnt/$i ; done
>     chroot /mnt
>

It was always my understanding that /boot was just a directory in /.

here is the disc layout
Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1            2048    40962047    20480000   83  Linux
/dev/sda2        40962048   229378047    94208000    5  Extended
/dev/sda3       229378048   234440703     2531328   82  Linux swap /  
Solaris
/dev/sda5        40964096   229378047    94206976   83  Linux

I thought I'd try "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot" just to see what happens,  
and when I do I get...
"mount: you must specify the filesystem type" , so thought it best to not  
separately mount /mnt/boot

> 3. now you can fix your system.  e.g. by installing and/or configuring  
> grub2.
>
> running 'grub-install /dev/sda' may be sufficient.
>
> if your grub config is completely hosed, you may find it better/easier
> to just purge all currently installed grub packages and start from
> scratch:
>
>     dpkg --force-depends --purge $(dpkg -l '*grub*' | awk '/^[hi]/  
> {print $2}')
>     apt-get install grub
>
> note, though, that this scorched-earth purge and reinstall will only
> work if you either still have the downloaded grub packages in your
> /var/cache/apt/archives directory, a convenient debian-installer CD/DVD
> to get the packages from, or if you have a working internet connection
> from your live CD.
>
> 4. anyway, when you have finished fixing your grub configuration, you
> need to unmount the filesystems (in the reverse order you mounted them)
> and then reboot.
>
>     exit   # exit from the chroot.
>     for i in dev/pts sys dev proc /boot / ; do umount /mnt/$i ; done
>     sync
>     shutdown -r now
>

went through the whole process, purged grub and reinstalled.
"apt-get install grub" says it is going to install grub-legacy, which  
doesn't seem right, so installed grub-pc instead, but at the end of the  
installation it pops up a screen asking if I want grub installed on  
/dev/sda (and displayed ???) or /dev/sda1 (which it thought was /),  
neither worked, so I had to try a manual install, which said no errors.

On reboot, I have the "grub>" prompt.

So, given the disc layout above, which I recall was about 20GB for / and  
about 90GB for /home, do you still think I should be separately mounting  
/mnt/boot, and,
was it correct to install grub-pc, or should I have installed grub-legacy?

Many thanks for your help (and to all the others who have been helping as  
well), but it seems that we are not there yet. Hopefully some of the above  
will provide some more clues to those of you with knowledge of these things

Cheers,
-- 
Regards,
Terry Duell
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