@Yao: Thanks for that link, it did go to the correct page, but, still the "time" is eluding me, is that "1500" UTC zone 1 . . . ??? How to extrapolate that to Pacific Time zone???
F On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Yao Wei <m...@lxde.org> wrote: > The correct link is: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22714/ > architecture-discussions/ > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 at 04:55 Fritz Hudnut <este.el....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> @wxl: >> >> Again asking what time this will be happening? I tried the link and it >> said "page doesn't exist" . . . possibly link is busted or the page doesn't >> exist until in use? >> >> F >> >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Walter Lapchynski <w...@ubuntu.com> >> wrote: >> >> It should be pointed out that this discussion is not only about PPC but >> it's also about i386. Since i386 is a major target of Lubuntu, I would >> advise attendance. >> >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Bryan Quigley < >> bryan.quig...@canonical.com> wrote: >> >> Sorry for the late notice - there is a live discussion scheduled for >> this Wednesday on this topic for any flavors that want to further the >> discussion. >> >> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-16 11/meeting/22714/architecture- >> discussions/ >> >> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Walter Lapchynski <w...@ubuntu.com> >> wrote: >> > As you can see from the page on [PPC][1], the architecture has only >> > community support from Ubuntu. Lubuntu has been trying as much as we >> can to >> > support this, but the fact of the matter is that we have no developers >> on >> > our team that can actually help with PPC bugs. >> > >> > The best you can hope for is that kernel developers (mostly, the issue >> is >> > with drivers) might have some interest in fixing bugs. However, with >> only >> > community support, that's unlikely. Most of the focus on PPC has been >> on the >> > server side of things, where graphics just don't come into play. >> > >> > My estimation of things is that Lubuntu on PPC mostly works, given a few >> > caveats. All we need to do to release PPC is for all of the test cases >> to be >> > completed successfully (regardless of whether or not there are bugs) and >> > that marked on the QA tracker for the final testing of each milestone. >> If we >> > don't have that done, Canonical will not let us release it. >> > >> > PPC was what brought me originally to Lubuntu, so there's a special >> place >> > for it in my heart. Having an OS make that old hardware work was very >> > refreshing and introduced me to the real power and mission of Lubuntu. >> > >> > However, I haven't ran PPC in a long, long time. That being said, I'm >> not of >> > much help. We rely on the community of users to help out. When I don't >> see >> > testing happening in the community, it makes me think that I'm not the >> only >> > one that's neglected their PPC machines. >> > >> > The reality of the situation is that there has been much talk >> throughout the >> > Ubuntu community over the past few years about getting rid of i386. If >> that >> > happens, I can't imagine that Canonical keeping PPC. With that in mind, >> I >> > think the end of PPC Lubuntu is coming regardless of what our feelings >> are. >> > >> > Furthermore, the Lubuntu Team is a small one and we often lack the >> capacity >> > to do the things that we need to do. PPC is just stretching us even >> thinner, >> > and into an area few of us really have the experience, knowledge, >> resources, >> > or time to deal with. >> > >> > That said, I'm inclined to suggest we start the process of removing >> PPC. We >> > managed to release an LTS, which is the only version we even bother >> with PPC >> > on. All we would need to do is ensure that all the point releases for >> Trusty >> > and Xenial get published. That would put us out until about August 2018. >> > >> > I think ultimately this will be better for the team. Most importantly, >> > though, I think it will be better for the PPC users that I fear we can't >> > really support and who we often leave with a frustrated experience. >> > >> > What do you think? >> > >> > [1]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPC >> > -- >> > @wxl | http://polka.bike >> > Lubuntu Release Manager & Head of QA >> > Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact >> > Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader >> > Ubuntu Membership Board & LoCo Council Member >> > Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer >> > >> > -- >> > Lubuntu-devel mailing list >> > lubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-devel >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> @wxl | polka.bike >> C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D >> 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A >> >> >> -- >> Lubuntu-users mailing list >> Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ >> mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >> >
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