Enviado desde Samsung Mobile -------- Mensaje original -------- De: lubuntu-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com Fecha: 06/08/2016 6:00 a.m. (GMT-06:00) A: lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Asunto: Lubuntu-users Digest, Vol 56, Issue 11 Send Lubuntu-users mailing list submissions to lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lubuntu-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at lubuntu-users-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Lubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. [Bug 1608306] Re: Confusing for users with many websites (Walter Lapchynski) 2. Re: [Bug 1608306] Re: Confusing for users with many websites (Narcis Garcia) 3. iso weirdness Diskutil, gparted, MKUSB (scrooya...@riseup.net) 4. Re: iso weirdness Diskutil, gparted, MKUSB (Nio Wiklund) 5. Re: iso weirdness Diskutil, gparted, MKUSB (Liam Proven) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 15:27:01 -0000 From: Walter Lapchynski <w...@ubuntu.com> To: lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [lubuntu-users] [Bug 1608306] Re: Confusing for users with many websites Message-ID: <20160805152702.29480.79164.mal...@gac.canonical.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" @Mario, as Michael Hall, a member of the Ubuntu Community Council said, bug comments are not the place for arguments. Let's keep the discussion on topic. The problem is that users are confused about the two websites. lubuntu.me came into existence due to a lack of control at lubuntu.net, which was constantly out of date. Even though it links to many resources on the wiki, it provides download links separate from that. Without being able to keep those up to date, that is, among other things, problematic. Though lubuntu.me solves this problem, the existence of both websites creates a new one: a clash of information and a confusion for users. The solution is very simple. What we need is one website, and one which is ultimately decentralized. With lubuntu.me being hosted by Canonical (in process) and being registered by Canonical (also coming soon), it not only appears official, but then it is within the control of the Ubuntu Community since the resources Canonical provides (IS Team, Community Council) serve that community. Right now, lubuntu.net is neither official nor within community control. However, Lubuntu is certainly an official flavor of Ubuntu[1][2][3][4] and subsequently "owned" by the Ubuntu Community, rather than being the project of any one particular person. This is why the IS Team and the Community Council were contacted and provided the change to the ownership of the Lubuntu Team. After all, this is more decentralized. [1]: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours [2]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors [3]: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=208 [4]: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-April/000835.html (read the whole thread) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1608306 Title: Confusing for users with many websites Status in Lubuntu Artwork: In Progress Bug description: Hi! I have used Lubuntu for many years and thought the lubuntu.net webstte was the official site for lubuntu. I have subscribed to the RSS feed to get news, but lately, there have been very few. Recently, I discovered the lubuntu.me website. It seems more active and the blog is up to date on news. There is no indication on either that they are not official, but on the bottom of both, there seems to be information pointing towards both being owned by individuals, not by the Lubuntu project. This makes it hard to know which is the official site, if any. Would it not be less confusing for users to have one website and make the other address redirect to it? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/1608306/+subscriptions ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:17:39 +0200 From: Narcis Garcia <informat...@actiu.net> To: lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] [Bug 1608306] Re: Confusing for users with many websites Message-ID: <57a4bc23.5040...@actiu.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I think lubuntu.org is the best domain name+extension to set as official web home. I see nonsense to create others as .me If the problem is the content maintainment, the solution is to fix the content maintainment and/or content manager team. lubuntu.me only has a future if .prg and .net are both closed. El 05/08/16 a les 17:27, Walter Lapchynski ha escrit: > @Mario, as Michael Hall, a member of the Ubuntu Community Council said, > bug comments are not the place for arguments. Let's keep the discussion > on topic. > > The problem is that users are confused about the two websites. > > lubuntu.me came into existence due to a lack of control at lubuntu.net, > which was constantly out of date. Even though it links to many resources > on the wiki, it provides download links separate from that. Without > being able to keep those up to date, that is, among other things, > problematic. Though lubuntu.me solves this problem, the existence of > both websites creates a new one: a clash of information and a confusion > for users. > > The solution is very simple. What we need is one website, and one which > is ultimately decentralized. With lubuntu.me being hosted by Canonical > (in process) and being registered by Canonical (also coming soon), it > not only appears official, but then it is within the control of the > Ubuntu Community since the resources Canonical provides (IS Team, > Community Council) serve that community. > > Right now, lubuntu.net is neither official nor within community control. > However, Lubuntu is certainly an official flavor of Ubuntu[1][2][3][4] > and subsequently "owned" by the Ubuntu Community, rather than being the > project of any one particular person. This is why the IS Team and the > Community Council were contacted and provided the change to the > ownership of the Lubuntu Team. After all, this is more decentralized. > > [1]: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours > [2]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors > [3]: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=208 > [4]: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-April/000835.html > (read the whole thread) > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:52:59 +0200 From: scrooya...@riseup.net To: Lubuntu Users <lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: [lubuntu-users] iso weirdness Diskutil, gparted, MKUSB Message-ID: <2ec9fff12656ff5ecf623d995e292...@riseup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi everyone, I experience some weird behaviour with the FreeDOS ISO I flashed FreeDOS to an USB. when i plug the USB in i can open the partition and browse the FreeDOS directories However, when i tru to boot the drive the Acer does not detect it. Then i tought, to flash it againg but then by usin Unetbootin. BUT Unetbooting does not detect the USB either So i look with Gparted. and when i select the drive this-one says UNALLOCATED SPACE Then back to MKUSB.. BUT MKUSB no longer sees the USB But in PCman i can just browse the drive withouth issues.. Then i installed the Diskutillity from gnome And thisone sees the USB but it can't remove or edit the partition. So back to Gparted, this time Gparted does NOTsee the USB. back again to diskutil unmounted and remounted the partition back to gparted and now it again sees /dev/sdb as unallocated diskspace. Warning: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label Is there something that i'm missing? Something that diskutil can do that gparted can not? And MKUSB why does that no-longer see the USB stick? Is there anotherapplication then Diskutilliy or Gparted that is able to at least let me remove the partition and format the stick? I'm sure i'm overlooking something. The unrecognised disklabel is that caused by the FreeDOS iso or could it be a bug in MKUSB? I'd like to try to flash FreeDOS with Unetbootin but cant figure out why Unetbootin does not see the USB at all. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 11:39:58 +0200 From: Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> To: scrooya...@riseup.net, Lubuntu Users <lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] iso weirdness Diskutil, gparted, MKUSB Message-ID: <a9720d74-eedf-31e4-7e06-508042443...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Hi scrooyahoo, [replying inline] Best regards Nio Den 2016-08-06 kl. 03:52, skrev scrooya...@riseup.net: > > Hi everyone, > > I experience some weird behaviour with the FreeDOS ISO > > I flashed FreeDOS to an USB. > when i plug the USB in i can open the partition and browse the FreeDOS > directories > > However, when i tru to boot the drive the Acer does not detect it. > > Then i tought, to flash it againg but then by usin Unetbootin. > > BUT Unetbooting does not detect the USB either > So i look with Gparted. and when i select the drive this-one says > UNALLOCATED SPACE > Then back to MKUSB.. BUT MKUSB no longer sees the USB > But in PCman i can just browse the drive withouth issues.. I don't understand what happens. Maybe you can run some commands and post the output in a reply. - Run the system, where pcmanfm can see the drive with FreeDOS - Open a terminal window - Run the following commands and post the output (copy and paste to an email window), df -h sudo parted -ls sudo lsblk -f sudo lsblk -m > Then i installed the Diskutillity from gnome > > And thisone sees the USB but it can't remove or edit the partition. > > So back to Gparted, this time Gparted does NOTsee the USB. > > back again to diskutil > unmounted and remounted the partition > back to gparted and now it again sees /dev/sdb as unallocated diskspace. > Warning: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label > > Is there something that i'm missing? Something that diskutil can do that > gparted can not? And MKUSB why does that no-longer see the USB stick? Try to remember what you have changed in the computer, for example some setting in a BIOS menu. Can you see make the system see another pendrive (with some other content)? > Is there anotherapplication then Diskutilliy or Gparted that is able to > at least let me remove the partition and format the stick? What happens in another computer? > I'm sure i'm overlooking something. What happens after shutting down, waiting for 5 minutes and cold booting? > The unrecognised disklabel is that caused by the FreeDOS iso or could it > be a bug in MKUSB? > I'd like to try to flash FreeDOS with Unetbootin but cant figure out why > Unetbootin does not see the USB at all. Read about FreeDOS at its web page, and use a method and tool that is recommended to install it into a USB pendrive. For example this page https://www.chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb/ suggests to first expand with bzip2 before flashing. mkusb is made to expand files compressed with gzip and xz (but not bzip2), so you must use it in a two-step procedure, first expand, then flash alias install into a USB drive. So check with sha1sum, that the download was good, sha1sum FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img.bz2 187ce046066b7a70039a46d7c3a24dd52a8dc049 and create 'FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img' with the following command bzcat FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img.bz2 > FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img and use it with the following command sudo -H mkusb FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img in a computer, where the target pendrive is recognized. You can also use dd or some other tool to get it into a pendrive by the *cloning* method. Do not use Unetbootin. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:34:05 +0200 From: Liam Proven <lpro...@gmail.com> To: lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] iso weirdness Diskutil, gparted, MKUSB Message-ID: <camtencfjpm-pg3gccqcsgf92qraoy+9ohxe-zff24_wejby...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 6 August 2016 at 03:52, <scrooya...@riseup.net> wrote: > I flashed FreeDOS to an USB. How? And how was the drive partitioned? -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com ? 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