Of course, you should uninstall the Hebrew input method before doing this.
אלעד הן נייד: 052-5348554 On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:02 PM, אלעד הן <eladh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok, a good friend, and far more knowledgeable than myself in the world of > linux, gave me the solution. > > He says he thinks the way Lubuntu switches between languages is the source > of the problem. > > He told me to run this command: > > *setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle "us,il"* > > Now everything works wonderfully. > > How can I help lubuntu fix this problem? > > Thank all of you for your patience and your help. It makes even solving > problems a nice experience. > > > > > > > אלעד הן > נייד: 052-5348554 > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:33 PM, אלעד הן <eladh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I tried it out in Gedit. LibreOffice still has the spellchecker. >> >> >> >> >> אלעד הן >> נייד: 052-5348554 >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Walter Lapchynski <w...@ubuntu.com> >> wrote: >> >>> מזל טוב ☺ >>> >>> What word processor? >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:28 PM, אלעד הן <eladh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > It worked! Thank you so much! >>> > >>> > The only problem is now I seem to have lost the Hebrew spell checker, >>> which >>> > I guess is part of the other Hebrew input method. Is there a way to >>> get only >>> > the spell checker? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > אלעד הן >>> > נייד: 052-5348554 >>> > >>> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Walter Lapchynski <w...@ubuntu.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Keyboard Input Methods in the Preferences menu. Or just run >>> >> `ibus-setup` from the command line. Or you can use the "Run" option in >>> >> the menu. Or you can use the Alt-F2 shortcut for that Run option. >>> >> >>> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:09 PM, אלעד הן <eladh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> > Well, I installed it but now embarrassingly I have no Idea where >>> >> > ibus-setup >>> >> > is... >>> >> > >>> >> > Anyway, as far as I know there are no physical differences between >>> US >>> >> > and >>> >> > Hebrew keyboards. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > אלעד הן >>> >> > נייד: 052-5348554 >>> >> > >>> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Walter Lapchynski <w...@ubuntu.com> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Well, it might work with the Hebrew keyboard, too. It's worth >>> trying >>> >> >> with >>> >> >> both. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On 3/1/15, אלעד הן <eladh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >> > Thanks! Well, I have a US keyboard too (I have little stickers >>> for >>> >> >> > the >>> >> >> > Hebrew letters) so this definitely seems worth a try. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > אלעד הן >>> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554 >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Walter Lapchynski < >>> w...@ubuntu.com> >>> >> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> One thing I read from there is potentially installing the >>> >> >> >> `ibus-m17n` >>> >> >> >> package and then choosing the Hebrew input method in >>> `ibus-setup`. I >>> >> >> >> actually just did this, switched to the Hebrew input method and >>> was >>> >> >> >> able to copy and paste no problem. Of course, I do have a US >>> >> >> >> keyboard, >>> >> >> >> so that might not be a good test ☺ >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:25 AM, אלעד הן <eladh...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> >> >> > Thank you very much. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > The problem is global as far as I can tell (in every program >>> and >>> >> >> >> > even >>> >> >> >> > in >>> >> >> >> the >>> >> >> >> > file manager). >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > I will try changing the layout and see if it helps. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > I came across this bit of information: >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/1586 >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > But I'm too ill-informed to understand if what they describe >>> is >>> >> >> >> > the >>> >> >> >> > same >>> >> >> >> > problem and what exactly they're suggesting as a solution... >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > אלעד הן >>> >> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554 >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski < >>> w...@ubuntu.com> >>> >> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> First off, there is an [Ubuntu Local Community in Israel][1] >>> that >>> >> >> >> >> you >>> >> >> >> >> may want to connect with, especially considering they have >>> >> >> >> >> probably >>> >> >> >> >> faced the same issue. >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Secondly, this is not solely a Lubuntu issue. Sure, we have >>> >> >> >> >> different >>> >> >> >> >> GUI tools to do this and that but ultimately "under the hood" >>> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu >>> >> >> >> >> and Lubuntu is the same. That being said, it may be useful >>> to ask >>> >> >> >> >> in >>> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu circles what the appropriate command line solution >>> is. If >>> >> >> >> >> you >>> >> >> >> >> can figure that out, I'm sure we can translate that into an >>> >> >> >> >> appropriate Lubuntu GUI solution. >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Now, is this only in the word processor or is this global? If >>> >> >> >> >> it's >>> >> >> >> >> only the word processor, you might want to see if it has >>> better >>> >> >> >> >> support for Hebrew. For example, I know of the package >>> >> >> >> >> `libreoffice-l10n-he` which adds some additional support for >>> >> >> >> >> Hebrew. >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> If it is global, then you may want to try the alternative >>> >> >> >> >> keyboard >>> >> >> >> >> layouts (lyx, phonetic, biblical). I have searched through >>> the >>> >> >> >> >> plethora of options that `setxkbmap` offers (see `man >>> >> >> >> >> xkeyboard-config`) and I don't find anything particularly >>> >> >> >> >> obvious, >>> >> >> >> >> so >>> >> >> >> >> I would imagine that one of these three layouts probably has >>> your >>> >> >> >> >> solution. >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> My guess is either that this is specific to a particular >>> >> >> >> >> application >>> >> >> >> >> (in which case the answer may involve digging through its >>> >> >> >> >> configuration and/or complaining to the folks that make that >>> >> >> >> >> application) or that some existing keyboard layout or option >>> >> >> >> >> provides >>> >> >> >> >> the answer. >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> It is possible that people just switch keyboard layouts. Sure >>> >> >> >> >> seems >>> >> >> >> >> strange, but it's possible. If you look at the "Switching to >>> >> >> >> >> another >>> >> >> >> >> layout" section in the aforementioned man page, you'll see >>> you >>> >> >> >> >> can >>> >> >> >> >> define hotkeys to quickly make this change. >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> I will note that /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/il seems to be >>> >> >> >> >> written >>> >> >> >> >> by >>> >> >> >> >> someone who has a better sense of Hebrew than I do, >>> referencing >>> >> >> >> >> the >>> >> >> >> >> "standard SI-1452." That being said, I my gut tells me they >>> >> >> >> >> probably >>> >> >> >> >> didn't miss this crucial set of hotkeys. >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> If you discover the answer, please share with us! Perhaps >>> even >>> >> >> >> >> better, >>> >> >> >> >> add what you find to the [Hebrew Localization Ubuntu wiki >>> >> >> >> >> page][2]. >>> >> >> >> >> Good luck! >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> [1]: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-il/ >>> >> >> >> >> [2]: >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:26 AM, אלעד הן <elad2...@gmail.com> >>> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> > Thanks for responding. I'm to much of a newbie to >>> understand >>> >> >> >> >> > most >>> >> >> >> >> > of >>> >> >> >> >> > what >>> >> >> >> >> > you said though :( >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > The site doesn't seem to be related to linux... >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > I looked through the different keyboard options in >>> >> >> >> >> > "preferences" >>> >> >> >> >> > and >>> >> >> >> >> > there >>> >> >> >> >> > aren't many of them, and nothing looks relevant... >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > אלעד הן >>> >> >> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554 >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Israel < >>> israeld...@gmail.com> >>> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> On 03/01/2015 04:55 AM, אלעד הן wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Hi everyone. I'm a total newbie and probably doing this >>> wrong >>> >> >> >> >> >> but >>> >> >> >> bare >>> >> >> >> >> >> with me... I tried searching for answers to this problem, >>> but >>> >> >> >> although >>> >> >> >> >> >> I've >>> >> >> >> >> >> found several references to it, I couldn't find a >>> solution. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Anyway, I installed lubuntu 14.04 (not the 64 bit >>> version) on >>> >> >> >> >> >> my >>> >> >> >> >> >> old >>> >> >> >> >> >> laptop and I'm very pleased with the performances. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> When word-processing I mostly use Hebrew, and I've found >>> the >>> >> >> >> >> >> Keyboard >>> >> >> >> >> >> shortcuts don't work when I'm the keyboard is switched to >>> >> >> >> >> >> Hebrew. >>> >> >> >> This >>> >> >> >> >> >> means >>> >> >> >> >> >> that every time I want to copy and paste in Hebrew I first >>> >> >> >> >> >> have >>> >> >> >> >> >> to >>> >> >> >> >> >> switch >>> >> >> >> >> >> back to English, use the shortcuts and switch back to >>> Hebrew. >>> >> >> >> >> >> This >>> >> >> >> is a >>> >> >> >> >> >> very >>> >> >> >> >> >> big problem for the flow of work, and makes the shortcuts >>> >> >> >> >> >> hardly >>> >> >> >> short. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Does anyone have a solution for this? >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> אלעד הן >>> >> >> >> >> >> נייד: 052-5348554 >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Elad, >>> >> >> >> >> >> It may be an issue with the way the Hebrew keyboard is >>> mapped. >>> >> >> >> >> >> The >>> >> >> >> >> >> keyboard probably represents "V" and "C" incorrectly. >>> Which >>> >> >> >> >> >> would >>> >> >> >> >> >> make >>> >> >> >> >> >> sense, which one becomes 'V' and which one becomes 'C'? >>> There >>> >> >> >> >> >> are >>> >> >> >> >> >> at >>> >> >> >> >> >> least >>> >> >> >> >> >> 2 for each of those that I can think of, right? >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> You may find something here: >>> >> >> >> >> >> http://penguin.org.il/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> Since it is an Israeli Linux site. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> I think this may be related to X keyboard mapping, though >>> that >>> >> >> >> >> >> is >>> >> >> >> >> >> a >>> >> >> >> >> >> guess. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Sorry I do not know a specific solution, though. You >>> might >>> >> >> >> >> >> try >>> >> >> >> asking >>> >> >> >> >> >> in >>> >> >> >> >> >> Hebrew specific IRC channels, or asking someone at a local >>> >> >> >> >> >> Linux >>> >> >> >> >> >> User >>> >> >> >> >> >> Group. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >>> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >>> >> >> >> >> >> Lubuntu-users mailing list >>> >> >> >> >> >> Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> >> >> >> >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > -- >>> >> >> >> >> > Lubuntu-users mailing list >>> >> >> >> >> > Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com >>> >> >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> >> >> >> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >>> >> >> >> >> @wxl | http://polka.bike >>> >> >> >> >> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA >>> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact >>> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader >>> >> >> >> >> Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> -- >>> >> >> >> @wxl | http://polka.bike >>> >> >> >> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA >>> >> >> >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact >>> >> >> >> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader >>> >> >> >> Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> @wxl | http://polka.bike >>> >> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA >>> >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact >>> >> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader >>> >> Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> @wxl | http://polka.bike >>> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA >>> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact >>> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader >>> Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer >>> >> >> >
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