Hi again Ali, I understand that you want the text as short as possible. Other people want a longer paragraph to include a few more details. I think the discussion should continue ...
Best regards Nio 2014-03-27 19:05, Ali Linx skrev: > > On 03/27/2014 07:51 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> Based on the feedback from several of you, I suggest the following text >> for the Lubuntu Wiki page paragraph 'System Requirements' >> >> ----- >> text for the Lubuntu wiki page for Lubuntu 14.04 LTS >> >> >> System Requirements >> >> Lubuntu is a good operating system for many old computers, but not for >> all of them. Some computers have too little horsepower or memory. A rule >> of thumb is that the computer should not be more than 10 years old. >> >> >> Memory (RAM) >> >> If you plan to use advanced internet services like Google+, Youtube, >> Google Docs and Facebook, your computer needs at least 1 GB RAM, but >> 2 GB RAM makes the computer work better. >> >> If you plan to use local programs like Libre Office (for word >> processing,spreadsheet calculations and presentations) and Thunderbird >> for email, and seldom browse to web pages with a lot of graphics and >> animations, your computer needs 512 MB RAM, but 768 MB or 1 GB RAM makes >> it work significantly better. > > Hi, > > Not trying here to force what I suggested previously but I highly > recommend to KISS and the above text will definitely defeat the KISS logic. > > You're making life much more complicated and at the same time, defeating > the 'lightweight' term in Lubuntu. > > 1-2GB RAM? that is what Ubuntu GNOME needs to work as fast as Lubuntu ;) > > IMHO, it is a mistake to get into details. The more you get into > details, the more limitation you put and more complications we add to > the situation. > > Our job is to explain the 'Recommended and/or the Minimum Requirements'. > It is for the users to decide what they will use their system for. If we > get into details, we shall need a long pages and then more feedback and > infinite loop of emails, etc. This is a HUGE waste of time. > > > >> >> Processor (CPU) >> >> The minimum specification for CPU is Pentium 4 or Pentium M or AMD K8. >> Older processors are too slow and AMD K7 has problems with flash video. >> >> VIA C7 might run with Xubuntu 12.04 LTS or Bento, Bodhi, LXLE. > > If truth to be told, I'm against to mention names of systems that are > not from Ubuntu Family :) > >> >> Graphics chip / card >> >> Nvidia, AMD/ATI/Radeon and Intel work out of the box, or the system can >> be tweaked to work fairly easily. You can get help at the Ubuntu Forums. >> With such graphics, or if you don't know, try Lubuntu 14.04 LTS. >> >> SIS grahics should be run with flavours or re-spins of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, >> for example Bento, Bodhi, LXLE. > > Ubuntu family work on most of the cards so IMHO, no need to get into > details about this. > >> >> >> Installer >> >> The desktop installer works in most cases. If you have problems, for >> example with the graphics, try the alternate installer. >> >> >> Advanced methods >> >> If you have an older or less powerful system, and you are ready for >> advanced methods, read the tips at this page. >> ----- >> (Suggestions for the wiki page 'Advanced methods' is not written yet) >> > > If you guys are planning for detailed system requirements, that is > definitely a new separate Wiki Page :) > > > > >> Best regards >> Nio > > I guess that is all what I have to share :) > > >> >> 2014-03-27 10:08, Nio Wiklund skrev: >> >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> >>> The text we are discussing is like this now >>> ----- >>> System Requirements >>> >>> We have done many tests and we've found out that Lubuntu can be >>> installed on a Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MB of RAM, but such >>> a system would not perform well enough for daily use. >>> >>> With 256MB - 384MB of RAM, the performance will be better and the system >>> will be more usable. >>> >>> With 512MB of RAM, you don't need to worry much. >>> >>> The default "Desktop" installer requires 384-800 MB of RAM (depending on >>> selected options.) If you have problems, please use the "Alternate" >>> installer. >>> ----- >>> and it is part of the web page >>> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu >>> >>> which was last edited 2013-11-26 12:48:42 by dale-visser >>> >>> >>> I think we must change it. >>> >>> 1. Lubuntu Core Trusty works with 128 MB RAM, but not standard Lubuntu >>> Trusty. And Lubuntu Core needs at least 256 MB to work reasonably well, >>> but not for browsing bloated web pages. So it is mis-leading to state >>> that Lubuntu can be installed with 128 MB of RAM. It might be true for >>> some old version, but it is not true for Lubuntu Trusty. >>> >>> 2. With zRAM, the Lubuntu desktop installer does not need more than 384 >>> MB RAM. Before zRAM was used, it might need 700-800 MB for some >>> complicated installations. >>> >>> 3. Let us consider if we should specify the amount of RAM necessary for >>> the alternate installer. I think it is better to specify it. >>> >>> 4. Let us consider if we should also display the alternatives OBI and 9w >>> to install Lubuntu Core, which is lighter than standard Lubuntu. >>> Remember that there are many old computers with 256 MB RAM! >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> Nio >>> >>> > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
