Israel & All:
I checked it out on the various Ubuntu 13.10 distributions, and observed
the following:
Ubuntu (Unity):
Icons not a consistent size in their applications 'lens'. My
application's icon (submitted through Java Web-Start) was actually
larger in the 'lens' then the usual, and the zynaddsubfx icon (larger in
Lubuntu menu) is actually smaller. Some icons (qsynth, for example) had
a 'grainy' look, indicating they had been scaled-up from a smaller size.
All icons are consistent size size in the left-of-screen menu.
Ubuntu (Gnome)
Icons are a consistent size in the applications 'lens'. All are the
same size (including mine submitted through Java Web-Start). Zynaddsubfx
(large on Lubuntu) is the same, consistent size. Some (hexter and
nekobee, for example) have no icon.
Kubuntu (KDE)
Consistent size icons in applications menu. Hexter and Nekobee have no
icons. My application's icon (submitted via Java Web-Start) is
consistent size.
UbuntuStudio (XFCE)
All icons present, and consistent size, both on the desktop, and in the
menus. Hexter and Nekobee have icons, though the icon for Nekobee (a
tool-box icon) may not be right for a DSSI software synthesizer. I
wonder if they substituted something for its missing icon that they
though reasonable. UbuntuStudio has a lot of KDE libraries in it, and
it might have gotten the consistent sizes from that (KDE had consistent
sizes for all).
Perhaps another (long-term) solution might be to make it clear to
developers what is needed, and the developers will fix it upstream.
- Aere
On 12/29/2013 01:54 PM, Israel wrote:
Ah... you sent this when I was typing my e-mail.
I am glad to hear others are working on fixing this issue!
Are you working on making symbolic links, or some automated script
(kinda like what I am attempting), or something totally different?
Eric has sorted out the main 2 issues.
1. bad Icon= path
2. xpm sized too large
I can only see 3 (realistically)possible solutions.
1. script to fix the icons
2. symbolic links to the real icons
3. automated conversion and fixing of desktop files (possibly on a
larger Ubuntu community scale... not just Lubuntu)
I guess it might be time to find out if Xfce/Gnome/Unity has this
problem, though wrong icon paths will affect every respin, I
suppose... if not there may be a solution in another DE already for
the wrong icon paths. Though badly sized Icons can only be fixed by
resizing them (or forcing the menu to show them at a certain size)
It seems like to fix every icon field one would have to work for
Canonical to be able to make a change of that magnitude across all
however many thousands of packages in the repos.
It would be very nice to have it done for Trusty.
On 12/29/2013 11:40 AM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
We're trying to clean that mess too. A lot of programs, coming from
old versions of Gnome, have icon definitions pointing to weird paths.
The ideal rule is just naming the icon, with path or extension, just
its name, and obviously putting an icon at the apps section of the theme.
Xombrero, Openbox itself or GColor2 are examples of bad icon naming.
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2013/12/29 Eric Bradshaw <ericbrads...@computers4christians.org
<mailto:ericbrads...@computers4christians.org>>
I hope the details below helps someone figure some things out
about no icons, blank icons and icons that are too big. And as
mentioned previously by Aere; there is quite a bit of variation
in the way developers tackle the icon "problem." I looked a
little deeper and tried some experimenting with apps installed
through LSC starting with the letter "E."
For the application called eFTE, which shows no icon (default
icon in menu, blank on the desktop); there are 4 icons in
usr/share/pixmaps
efte16x16.xpm
efte32x32.xpm
efte48x48.xpm
efte64x64.xpm
This is referenced in the shortcut as Icon=efte
I copied the shortcut to the desktop and changed just the Icon=
line to reference the path to the 32x32 icon
Icon=usr/share/pixmaps/efte32x32.xpm
This had absolutely no effect. I tried each of the other sizes as
well; 16x16, 48x48 and 64x64. None had any effect - still a blank
icon.
I also tried moving the Icon= line to the top of the shortcut,
just below [Desktop Entry]; nothing.
I then moved the Icon= line above [Desktop Entry] and this time
after saving, the default icon was shown.
Next, I deleted all but the 64x64px icon in usr/share/pixmaps and
renamed it simply efte.xpm. I then moved the Icon= line back down
below the Exec= line, but left the path. The icon went back to
being blank. Finally, I removed the path, so it was now
Icon=efte.xpm (only the 64x64px icon still remained in
usr/share/pixmaps and the icon's name is simply efte.xpm) and the
icon showed on the desktop! I (tested to make sure the shortcut
still worked from the desktop to open eFTE) then replaced the
shortcut in /usr/share/applications and the icon showed in the
menu too! The menu now showed a large icon for eFTE; 4 times the
size it should have been. Next (because I had really deleted all
but the 64x64px version) I halved the size of the icon in GIMP
and overwrote it in /usr/share/pixmaps. And because it was still
showing the 4x size in the menu, I entered lxpanelctl restart in
LXTerminal and the icon had shrunk to twice the size as normal -
the 32x32px size. I halved it again to 16x16px and again entered
lxpanelctl restart in LXTerminal and the icon then finally showed
in the menu at a normal size.
In the case of Emila Pinball, which shows a large icon (roughly
4x normal size); there is only 1 icon in the same location
pinball.xpm
This icon is 32x32px, 72 dpi.
This is referenced in the shortcut as Icon=pinball.xpm
emesene, which shows a normal icon; has both an .xpm (at 32x32px)
and a .png (at 96x96px) in usr/share/pixmaps
emesene.xpm
emesene.png
Referenced in the shortcut as Icon=emesene
ELKI, which shows a normal icon; only one icon resides in
usr/share/pixmaps
elki-icon.png
It is also 32x32px, 72 dpi
In the shortcut as Icon=elki-icon
Hope some of this sheds some light.
Eric
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