On 2013-08-20 14:06, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > [Replying at the end] > > On 2013-08-20 10:06, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Nio Wiklund > <nio.wikl...@gmail.com <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com> > > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > Lubuntu 12.04 will soon reach its end of life. I would try > alternatives > > in the following order. > > > > > > 1. Lubuntu 13.04 and Lubuntu 13.10 (to be released very close > to 12.04 > > end of life). Lubuntu 13.10 will have zRAM, which is good for > low RAM. > > It is developing well, several bugs of 13.04 are fixed, and I > think it > > will be a nice experience. Both of these versions can run with > fake-PAE > > for Celeron M and Pentium M computers. > > > > > > 2. Ubuntu 12.04 versions/derivatives with LTS until April 2017 > > > > If some important driver for your computer is missing in 13.04 and > > 13.10, because that hardware has been abandoned by newer Ubuntu > > versions, the best alternatives are > > > > - LXLE by ronniew alias Mr Wislr > > > > > > http://lxle.net/index.php?id=articles&post=lxle-paradigm-goes-final-with-12043-update > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxle/files/Current%20Release/ > > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2125764&page=8&p=12762338#post12762338 > > > > and > > > > - PreciseGnomeClassicTweaks by kansasnoob alias Lance > > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseGnomeClassicTweaks > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966370 > > > > > > 3. Other alternatives with security updates > > > > - Xubuntu is also good but has only long time support until > April 2015. > > > > - Lubuntu 12.10 has end of life in April 2014, at the same > time as the > > next long time support version, Lubuntu 14.04. > > > > > > 4. A possible alternative, where you will be on your own > > > > You can keep Lubuntu 12.04 although it will be only partially > supported. > > You will be on your own, trying to keep your software up to > date. This > > is a security issue and there is also a small risk that some > not updated > > package will break due to updates of other packages after the > end of > > life of Lubuntu 12.04. See this link > > > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1954702&p=11829724#post11829724 > > > > > > *. Backup your system. Try some versions live if possible > (even if you > > would need the alternate iso to install later on). And when > you have > > found your favourite, go ahead and install it. An alternative > is to try > > an 'installed system on a USB drive' according to this link. > > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstalledSystemFakePAE > > > > > > Best regards > > Nio > > > > > > > > Hi Nio, > > > > Thank you for your email :) > > > > Just to highlight a very important point: LXLE is NO longer > Lubuntu LTS > > version. Check the other thread Phill and I have sent. > > > > Those who want to use LXLE, they need to understand it is NOT Lubuntu > > with LTS. It is a community spin that is based on Ubuntu/Lubuntu. > > > > Thank you! > > > > -- > > *Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > *Best Regards, > > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> - StartUbuntu Project > > > > <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu> > - Linux > > Brainstorming <https://www.facebook.com/groups/352004991569676/> - > > Mubuntu > > > > <http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/07/draft-mubuntu-simple-minimal-system.html> > > Lubuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu> - Ubuntu GNOME > > <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - Xubuntu <http://xubuntu.org/> - Peppermint > > <http://peppermintos.com/about/> > > > > > > Hi Ali, > > I just read up on the controversy about the LXLE announcement about > 12.04.3. > > It is not Lubuntu, but it is derived from Ubuntu 12.04, and I think it > is a distro with many good qualities. I realize that LXLE is responsible > for its long time support (that the people developing and maintaining it > 'are on their own' to keep the software updated). > > Best regards > Nio > > > Hello Nio, > > Indeed, it is no longer Lubuntu so the website and all the other > sites/pages/news/whatever need to be changed to show the truth :) > > As for being LTS or not, I'm sorry, the whole thing is not trust worthy > anymore. For someone who bans people and removes their comments that > show the truth about what is going on, this project is not trust worthy > nor deserve to waste one second to look at it. This is not the Open > Source Spirit that I have learned for 3 years and still learning more > about :) > And when someone like Phill (who does not know him? or what he had done > for everyone?) is trying his very best to show the facts and correct the > misleading that happened, someone threats him of blocking from the > facebook group or whatever!!! is this the Open Source Spirit that we are > putting blood, sweat and tears to build? definitely, it is not. > > I'm sorry if my opinion sounds harsh or very negative but that is my > pure honest personal opinion. You have the full right to agree or > disagree with me, that is totally different story but for me, I have > stated 'my opinion'. > > After 8 months from now, the world will never need to worry at all, > Lubuntu 14.04 LTS is coming :D > For that, IMHO, each and every Lubuntu Users and Members need to focus > their efforts and have a masterpiece and a rock solid system. I can't > wait ... these 8 months will be full of fun and lots to learn :) > > Thank you! > > -- > *Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > *Best Regards, > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> - StartUbuntu Project > <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu> - > Linux > Brainstorming <https://www.facebook.com/groups/352004991569676/> - > Mubuntu > <http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/07/draft-mubuntu-simple-minimal-system.html> > Lubuntu <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu> - Ubuntu GNOME > <http://ubuntugnome.org/> - Xubuntu <http://xubuntu.org/> - Peppermint > <http://peppermintos.com/about/> > > Hello Ali,
I read the IRC chat of 'Ho Wan Chan' and 'LXLE' and I hope and think things can be settled. -o- I am also eagerly looking forward to the next LTS release, which is planned to be the first one including Lubuntu :-P -o- But for the really old computers, 10+ years, I think 14.04 LTS will be no alternative. I still think 12.04 LTS based versions/derivatives with LTS are good alternatives until April 2017. If some important driver for your computer is missing in 13.04 and 13.10, because that hardware has been abandoned by newer Ubuntu versions, I fear the same of 14.04 LTS, so the best alternatives remain - LXLE and - PreciseGnomeClassicTweaks by kansasnoob alias Lance It is up to the user to consider if the LTS is reliable for each version. Best regards Nio -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
