On 2013-06-21 06:31, Karl Anliot wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On 2013-06-21 02:51, Karl Anliot wrote: > > > > BTW, has anyone updated the wiki to say that you can't use the 32-bit > > ISO's on secure boot pc's? :( > > > > > What makes you mad about it? > > Do you mean the mini.iso specifically? Or all the installers? Or UEFI > and secure boot? > > > Sorry, I was just talking for my own benefit. Yes, it's documented. > I think the install process is still error-prone. I believe that every > any linux expert is good enough to install linux on a given piece of > hardware, but for that same piece of hardware, the difficulty level is > way too hard for the average user. > > Cheers, > kanliot > The average beginner knows less than the average user, and we need to focus on the average beginner to get new users.
The difficulty level is *very* different depending on the hardware and BIOS. I agree it is way too hard for the average user on many computers, but there are also many of them, where I think it is easy enough, if the 'average user' is happy with a default installation without dual booting or special partitioning. I'm afraid we cannot expect a one-button (or two-button) approach to 1. make the installation media 2. perform the installation because the average beginner starts from Windows or Mac. So I think the dialogue is necessary in the Ubuntu Forums, our mailing lists and facebook community. And the wiki pages must be easy to read for [average] beginners. I think it is important that everybody helps finding wiki pages that are too hard for beginners, suggests what to change and helps doing it. I'm a newbie as a wiki page editor, and I probably write too complicated text. And English is not my first language. So please help making it easier! What should we do with a complicated and/or slightly outdated wiki page (there are many)? Remove/replace it, or make a simple general one, with a link to that wiki page. Best regards Nio -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users