Hi Nio, if you're currently 'playing' with mini iso and usb, can you check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall I've not updated details on usb sticks and mini-iso, nor the network manager stuff for a couple of cycles now.
Thanks, Phill. On 20 June 2013 19:49, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > On 2013-06-20 19:56, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > > > >>>> - Would it be possible to add the Ubiquity command to the Openbox > >>>> right-click menu? ... > > > >>> If you are techie enough to play around like that, you are probably > >>> techie enough to remember a command :) > > > >> I was thinking, that people could be adviced to use that method: To > >> log into the ultra-light Openbox session, and the more that is > >> built into the system, the less must be described in the tutorial > >> or wiki page. > > > >> ... because this way it is possible to edit or wipe partitions and > >> 'swapon' before ubiquity is started, which helps when there is very > >> low RAM. > > > > I'm currently thinking and hoping the official docs can basically say > > there are exactly three recommended Lubuntu installation methods: > > > > (1) 384MB and up: use the desktop CD, select "Install Lubuntu" > > from the menu > > > > (2) 256MB to 384MB: use the alternate CD > > > > (3) 128MB to 256MB: Use the netboot mini.iso and select Lubuntu desktop > > at the software selection screen > > > > The appropriate RAM size numbers for each one are what we want to find > > out. > > > > What we *don't* want is to have 8 different methods, several of them > > long and complex and not suitable for newcomers. That just makes > > Lubuntu look "hard" and "for techies only". All those other "clever" > > methods can be documented somewhere on a wiki page, as things that are > > unsupported but might work, for people who know what they are doing and > > have less than 256MB. > > > > The same goes for workarounds for unsupported video chipsets, etc... we > > document them, but on the wiki only and not in the main documentation > > path we expect newcomers to use. So that people who don't need those > > details don't have to read them anyway and be put off Lubuntu by them. > > > > Jonathan > > > @ Jonathan, > > As usual, you have wise comments. > > We must keep separate > > 1. general and simple stuff for general users (including newcomers) > > 2. advanced stuff for special cases and/or interested or skilled people. > > I will not argue against that. I totally agree. What we disagree(d) > about is if we can include stuff for item 2 into the program code, as > the example to 'add the Ubiquity command to the Openbox right-click > menu'. But I start to understand that there might low priority for such > luxury because the programming resources are scarce, while we are many > who can write wiki pages. > > @ everybody, > > By the way, I edited the page about mini.iso > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD > > to indicate that it can be used from USB now (which is good for netbook > users and for people with bad CD/DVD drives). > > And I noticed that the network installation by the mini iso is not > portable like the one by the desktop iso. > > -o- > > A. If we plan to write '(3) 128MB to 256MB: Use the netboot mini.iso > ...' in the official document, someone must volunteer to test the RAM > limits with the mini.iso for Lubuntu Saucy. > > Or maybe that should belong to item 2, the advanced stuff. To be honest, > Knoppix or Puppy are better alternatives than Lubuntu for such low RAM. > I have hands on experience from an old Compaq with 192 MB RAM. > > B. What about zRAM for the alternate iso? Please state your opinion! > > Best regards > Nio > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa > Post to : lubuntu...@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
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