Nio, Patient, my friend :D
Once we are done from our tests (I'm doing many tests as of now) and 'update' the Wiki, all the problems, IMHO, will be solved. We first need to understand an important point, IMHO: We need to understand that the minimum requirement to 'install' Lubuntu is NOT the same as the minimum requirement to 'use' Lubuntu. IMHO, this is important note. The Wiki, once the tests are done, will be updated. Not only that, we will mention what steps we have done to test and came to find these requirement. So, the Wiki won't just mention for example the minimum RAM is 256MB for Desktop ISO, we will also mention HOW did we find out that :) On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> wrote: > See inline and end > > On 2013-06-16 21:36, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > > On 06/16/2013 11:22 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > > > >> I think your analysis is correct, so if you have low RAM > >> > >> 1. Make sure there is swap and that it is active before starting the > >> installer > >> > >> 2. Do not touch it during the installation (at the partitioning page) > > > > I think expecting novice users coming from Windows to pre-partition and > > set up swap space before they install is asking a *lot*. I'd much > > prefer that we focus on installing to an HD with either no partitions, > > or a Windows partition, on it, since that is the common case for > > newcomers coming from a Windows OS on older hardware. > > I agree. But if it does not work without swap? > > > > > I think asking people to use the "Install Lubuntu" menu item on the > > desktop image is fine, as it is not difficult, and indeed is even > > logical, since that is exactly what they want to do :) > > > > I think asking people with lower RAM machines to use the Alternate > > Install CD is also fine, as it is no more difficult than using ubiquity, > > just less pretty. > > How many people start investigating and find the alternate installer? I > think many people dump Lubuntu if the first attempt does not work. > > > > > Anything beyond that (using netboot/mini.iso, or manual pre-partitioning > > to add swap space, etc.) is, to me, a workaround rather than something > > which we should expect normal users to have to deal with. Suitable for > > hobbyists, but not for the general public. > > People who ask here or at the Ubuntu Forums will get advice about the > alternate installer and/or prepartioning including swap, but what > percentage are we? > > > > > Since I'm writing the Installation chapter of the planned Lubuntu > > Manual, if that viewpoint is totally wrong/incorrect/nuts, I need to > > know that, ASAP :) In the end it's likely to be my decision, but I am > > interested in well-reasoned statements of different positions on this > > from anyone in the Lubuntu community. > > > > Jonathan > > > > The solution is to have a system that is transparent: if there is a > problem (in this case low RAM), there should be a warning and advice > what to do: > > - alternate installer > > - prepartioning including swap > > Or make an adaptive system, that skips the slide show (and maybe some > other processes), if there is too low RAM. > > I know, an adaptive system will have low priority, but maybe a warning > and some advice is possible to add into the code (not only into your > manual). > > Best regards > Nio > > > > -- > Lubuntu-users mailing list > Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > -- "All of us are smarter than any one of us." *Best Regards,* *amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/>* *Start Ubuntu<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu> * *Test Machine: ASUS F3F Laptop - **Intel Core Duo T2350 @ 1.86GHz with 489MB RAM*
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