See inline and end On 2013-06-16 21:36, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > On 06/16/2013 11:22 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > >> I think your analysis is correct, so if you have low RAM >> >> 1. Make sure there is swap and that it is active before starting the >> installer >> >> 2. Do not touch it during the installation (at the partitioning page) > > I think expecting novice users coming from Windows to pre-partition and > set up swap space before they install is asking a *lot*. I'd much > prefer that we focus on installing to an HD with either no partitions, > or a Windows partition, on it, since that is the common case for > newcomers coming from a Windows OS on older hardware.
I agree. But if it does not work without swap? > > I think asking people to use the "Install Lubuntu" menu item on the > desktop image is fine, as it is not difficult, and indeed is even > logical, since that is exactly what they want to do :) > > I think asking people with lower RAM machines to use the Alternate > Install CD is also fine, as it is no more difficult than using ubiquity, > just less pretty. How many people start investigating and find the alternate installer? I think many people dump Lubuntu if the first attempt does not work. > > Anything beyond that (using netboot/mini.iso, or manual pre-partitioning > to add swap space, etc.) is, to me, a workaround rather than something > which we should expect normal users to have to deal with. Suitable for > hobbyists, but not for the general public. People who ask here or at the Ubuntu Forums will get advice about the alternate installer and/or prepartioning including swap, but what percentage are we? > > Since I'm writing the Installation chapter of the planned Lubuntu > Manual, if that viewpoint is totally wrong/incorrect/nuts, I need to > know that, ASAP :) In the end it's likely to be my decision, but I am > interested in well-reasoned statements of different positions on this > from anyone in the Lubuntu community. > > Jonathan > The solution is to have a system that is transparent: if there is a problem (in this case low RAM), there should be a warning and advice what to do: - alternate installer - prepartioning including swap Or make an adaptive system, that skips the slide show (and maybe some other processes), if there is too low RAM. I know, an adaptive system will have low priority, but maybe a warning and some advice is possible to add into the code (not only into your manual). Best regards Nio -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users