Hi Nio, that makes sense, I'm sure you agree that the upgrade system should not install a (new) kernel that will not boot. I've had a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE and, as to be expected, it is of a high standard!
I have no issue with a community re-spin, but people who go digging about their pentium M's are most likely knowledgable enough to follow that guide. I'm happy to add a note at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu#System_Requirements mentioning about pentium M with a link to that wiki page. Thoughts anyone? Regards, Phill. On 3 May 2013 04:01, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi again, > > Now I know that an installed Lubuntu 13.04 with a pae kernel, that works > with my Pentium M, cannot handle kernel upgrades without fake-pae. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1175855 > > But after installation of fake-pae, I could upgrade the kernel with sudo > apt-get upgrade. So it is not only at the installation, that the pae > flag is checked. > > Best regards > Nio > > On 2013-05-03 02:40, Phill Whiteside wrote: > > Hi, > > > > having a wiki page is the fasted way to me. knowing Mörgaes also helps. > > Do keep us updated as to where this community re-spin goes. > > > > Regards, > > > > Phill. > > > > On 3 May 2013 00:54, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com > > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi Phill, > > > > 1. I want to make you aware of the wiki page, that was edited today > by > > Mörgaes to avoid doing the job twice > > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE > > > > So maybe you can have a shorter text and refer to that page for the > > details. > > > > 2. Now, that I know it that an installed Lubuntu 13.04 with a pae > kernel > > works with my Pentium M, I am testing another option, that might be > more > > flexible: a USB drive with grub2 and the Lubuntu iso file as a file > to > > be loop-mounted. It has no fake-pae at all. I don't know how it can > > handle kernel upgrades yet. > > > > Best regards > > Nio > > > > On 2013-05-02 22:14, Phill Whiteside wrote: > > > Hi Nio, Julien et. all. > > > > > > we have in the past mentioned community re-spins of lubuntu and > > when you > > > are happy with the README, I am happy to host the iso and see no > > reason > > > not to include a mention of both the use of fake-pae and of a 13.04 > > > community re-spin so that people do not need to use fake-pae. The > > thing > > > about linix is 'choice', give people the choice and let them > > decide. Use > > > fake-pae if they already have an install of 12.04 that they want > > to run > > > through two dist-upgrades and the non-pae 13.04 for those who are > > > installing for the 1st time. I see this as a "win - win" situation. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Phill. > > > > > > On 2 May 2013 04:19, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com > > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com> > > > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>>> > wrote: > > > > > > [feedback] > > > > > > Hi Julien and Phill, > > > > > > > > > I think Lubuntu 13.04 'Raring' for Pentium M CPUs is a good > > alternative > > > for a fresh install (instead of downloading 12.04 and > > upgrading twice to > > > newer releases). > > > > > > I'm receiving feedback from a few people right now, and I have > to > > > improve the instructions in the README file, maybe also change > the > > > concept of it to make it easier to understand and manage, > > since it is > > > different from the standard way of distributing software. > > > > > > -o- > > > > > > But for those who have > > > > > > - more or less personalized versions of Lubuntu 12.04 running, > or > > > - already have a Lubuntu 12.04 iso file and a slow internet > > connection > > > > > > the fake-pae method is good for upgrading to new pae releases, > > so yes, > > > it should be mentioned on the wiki. > > > > > > -o- > > > > > > Background > > > > > > The Pentium M CPUs are a special case. They have pae > > capability, but do > > > not announce the pae flag. So they fall between the chairs. > > With the > > > fake-pae trick, introduced by 7bit @ ubuntuforums, it is > > possible to > > > upgrade. There are many high-quality professional laptops > > around with > > > Pentium M processors. > > > > > > And, I have a Raring installation on a USB 3 pendrive, that > runs > > > beautifully on my old Thinkpad with Pentium M without the pae > > flag. > > > So the fake-pae flag helps it sit on the pae chair. > > > > > > This is what I am willing to offer to other Pentium M owners. > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > Nio > > > > > > > > > On 2013-05-01 12:55, Julien Lavergne wrote: > > > > Why not just add a mention on the wiki to use fake-pae for > > people in > > > > this case ? It seems less complicated that downloading a > > full version > > > > of Lubuntu just for this. > > > > If you are blocked by the upgrade tool, just advertise the > > use of > > > > "apt-get dist-upgrade". > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Julien Lavergne > > > > > > > > 2013/4/30 Phill Whiteside <phi...@ubuntu.com > > <mailto:phi...@ubuntu.com> > > > <mailto:phi...@ubuntu.com <mailto:phi...@ubuntu.com>>>: > > > >> Hi Nio, > > > >> > > > >> I'm okay with hosting it[1]. But you will need to write up > some > > > >> documentation, name it etc. > > > >> > > > >> Regards, > > > >> > > > >> Phill. > > > >> 1. http://phillw.net/isos/ > > > >> > > > >> On 30 April 2013 20:41, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com > > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com> > > > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>>> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Hello everybody, > > > >>> > > > >>> I think it will be hard to make the devs accept the small > > fix in the > > > >>> general code of *ubuntu to make it possible to install > into a > > > computer > > > >>> with Pentium M CPU. But it works with a system, that is > > > installed in a > > > >>> modern computer, and ported to the Pentium M as a USB > drive or > > > cloned or > > > >>> rsynced to an internal hard disk drive. > > > >>> > > > >>> I have such a system ready for distribution, but have a > > few requests > > > >>> before it can be uploaded and available for everybody. > > > >>> > > > >>> 1. Please read the attached README file and suggest > > changes (remove, > > > >>> change or add text)! > > > >>> > > > >>> 2. Please suggest where to upload it! The size is 1.1 GB. > > > >>> > > > >>> sudodus@ssd-grund ~/test/pae4pm $ ls -lh > > > >>> totalt 1,1G > > > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle 3,0K apr 30 14:24 > > commands-and-output.txt > > > >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle 56 apr 30 16:43 dd-restore.txt > > > >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle 1,1G apr 30 20:09 dd-sdb.gz > > > >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle 630 apr 30 14:55 dd-sdb.txt > > > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle 283 apr 30 20:47 md5sums.txt > > > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle 4,0K apr 30 20:45 README > > > >>> sudodus@ssd-grund ~/test/pae4pm > > > >>> > > > >>> I can upload it at a private cloud service, but I think it > is > > > better if > > > >>> you suggest some other place with better bandwidth. > > > >>> > > > >>> 3. 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