Your [bug comment][1] alone is telling, Nio. It basically agrees that it's not behaving correctly. Long story short is if you do a bunch of things that are inconsistent with the [testcase][2] and probably not intuitive to any average user, then it works. That's simply not good enough.
If you do want to help with testcases, I emphasize how important it is to make sure that we have matching testcases for both desktop and alternate. Please make sure to read the documentation on styles and such. A hint on that: there's no such thing as a "Lubuntu" testcase. [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1425681/comments/10 [2]: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/view/head:/testcases/image/1439_Alternate%20Install%20%28Encryption%29 On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Walter, > > If I can prove? In my opinion my test reports at the QA-tracker and the > mails to you show in detail what I did and what results I had. If that > is not enough, I'm sorry. I can't come to your place and show in your > computer ;-) What I can do is write a comment in the bug report 1425681. > > I accept that you decide to remove the LVM + encryption testcase. But I > think it was based on information that was not complete. If you have > general reasons to reduce the testcases, OK. > > I can't find that particular text for the removed testcase. I tried, but > it is not easy to search in the Launchpad jungle. If you want me to > help, please send a direct link! > > Best regards > Nio > > Den 2015-02-27 17:13, Walter Lapchynski skrev: >> I have to rely on what I hear from testers, especially when multiple >> testers report the same thing: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1425681 >> If you can prove that it is not true, then perhaps that might suggest >> other behaviors. >> >> Still, I don't want LVM to be a mandatory testcase. I'm concerned more >> about the many. When we have more resources, I'll make it mandatory >> again :-) >> >> The old testcase still exists, but I'm not using it. You can find out >> how to find them and how to contribute here: >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Manual >> >> @wxl >> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact >> Ubuntu Oregon Team Leader >> >> On Feb 26, 2015 10:36 PM, "Nio Wiklund" <nio.wikl...@gmail.com >> <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Walter, >> >> It is *not* true that LVM only works if you already have LVM set up. It >> works also from a blank drive (with only a partition table created by >> for example gparted, no partitions at all). And it works with Lubuntu >> Vivid 32-bit installed from the desktop as well as from the alternate >> installer. Did you read my test reports? >> >> I can only talk for myself: I can continue to test that Lubuntu works >> with LVM, encrypted disk and encrypted home. >> >> But we would have to rely on someone else to squash bugs encountered >> during the testing. In this particular case we can have a 'plan B', to >> add some extra steps that were not necessary in earlier versions of >> Lubuntu. If you give me access to the text of the previous testcase, I >> can add and modify it to make it useful in the future (either for the >> desktop or the alternate installer). And you can revive it. >> >> You are the QA leader and you can remove or add whatever test cases you >> like. I hope your decisions are the best for Lubuntu. >> >> Best regards >> Nio >> >> Den 2015-02-26 23:34, Walter Lapchynski skrev: >> > Well, at this point it seems LVM only works if you already have LVM >> > set up. This seems to be problematic. >> > >> > Also, it's imperative that we limit our scope in order to not get >> > overwhelmed. We have a small team and can only do so much. The scope I >> > consider appropriate includes packages we can support ourselves or >> > that have good support in the community. Ultimately, this does not >> > apply to debian-installer. However, alternate images are a necessary >> > evil. So then I would limit the scope to what parts of >> > debian-installer are relevant to the average user. Encryption arguably >> > is applicable, but LVM is certainly not. >> > >> > That being said, I'd be happy to include optional testcases (meaning >> > if they fail, the release will not be delayed) for LVM and encryption, >> > but I would want these to be separate. >> > >> > So who wants to make sure the LVM bug gets fixed and the testcases get >> > rewritten? That includes making sure that that equivalent testcases >> > are written for ubiquity (which will also be optional). If someone >> > wants to do the work, I'll set them up on the tracker. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Lars Noodén >> <lars.noo...@gmail.com <mailto:lars.noo...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> On 26.02.2015 08 <tel:26.02.2015%2008>:36, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> >>> ... >> >>> @ Walter: I suggest that we have at least one testcase with LVM, >> >>> encrypted disk and encrypted home. If we cannot keep the one >> that exists >> >>> now for the alternate iso, I suggest that we make one for the >> desktop iso. >> >>> ... >> >> >> >> +1 it is important to be able to offer encryption, >> >> without a test case it might fall to the wayside >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> /Lars >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa >> <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-qa> >> >> Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net >> <mailto:lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net> >> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa >> <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-qa> >> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > >> > >> > >> > -- @wxl | http://polka.bike Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
