As always, wise words..
Regards, Phill. On 4 January 2014 20:38, Elfy <ub.u...@btinternet.com> wrote: > On 04/01/14 20:01, Javier Lopez wrote: > > Hi, > > Happy new year to all QA ubuntu members =). Since some time ago, launchpad has > been used to track the progress on manual|automatic tests for Ubuntu and > derived > flavours (kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, etc). > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-testshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/ > > Recently however, Paul White has pointed out that some of the flavours use > other mediums to track progress on this aspect, eg. Kubuntu > useshttps://trello.com/kubuntu. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1183934 > > Should keep using launchpad to track manual|automatic test for ubuntu derived > flavours? > > Greetings > > > Happy new year to you too :) > > My position is simple enough. > > *Manual Testing.* > > If a flavour team wants to use the trackers then they should. > > If I'd seen this discussion before the bugs for manual testcases were > created, I would at that point have been -1 to a mass creation of testcases > for flavours without any discussion with them. > > It should be up to a team how to deal with their QA infrastructure. > > Different teams have differing resources - I'm positive that the only way > that we (Xubuntu) managed to get the testcases we did written, onto the > package tracker and actually tested was down to a lot of work by a very few > people at the beginning. > > It was of some concern to find ~50 bugs all tagged Xubuntu - I didn't see > any discussion on any mailing list about this. > > Now that we have the testcases - the tracker itself mostly looks after > itself. Though actually getting tests done and reported is a different > story. > > As far as Kubuntu goes - if they aren't using, and seem to have no > inclination to do so - why shouldn't the Kubuntu testcase bugs be marked as > invalid - as they surely are that ;) [1] > > I see that ubuntu-studio has 53 outstanding testcase bugs - they have less > people than we do. > > Edubuntu has 65 of them - though I've no idea how many people there are > available to do their testcases. > > *Autopilot testing* > > I can see the value in there being testcase bugs raised here - once the > testcase is done then the need for people to get involved reduces > remarkably - I assume. > > I'm surprised to be honest that there isn't a massive list of these. > Perhaps because it would seem that autopilot was set up purely for Ubuntu > - which is understandable - we are having massive problems even getting > anything to run for us in our environment, it would certainly have been of > enormous help for us to have automatic testing - it is looking increasingly > likely that we'll not ever be in a position to really take advantage of > this. > > > *Summary* > > In summary - it seems to me that we're looking at discussing something now > that should have been discussed earlier. > > But the main thing we should look at is whether a flavour has any > intention of using the package tracker. If QA as a team hasn't touched base > with them - then perhaps we should be. > > > > Apologies if I did miss mailings. > > regards > > Elfy > > > [1] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2014-January/007653.html > > > > > -- > Ubuntu Forum Council Member > Xubuntu QA Lead > > > -- > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > ubuntu-qual...@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
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