2013/10/24 Iberê Fernandes <ibere.fernan...@gmail.com> > 2013/10/24 Leszek Lesner <leszek.les...@web.de> > >> Hmm isn't there a graph before and after? >> >> *Von: *Andre Rodovalho >> *Gesendet: *Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2013 17:47 >> *An: *Nio Wiklund >> *Cc: *lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net; ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com; >> Lubuntu Comms; lubuntu user list >> *Betreff: *Re: People do not understand the desktop installer >> >> Yes... Today, a little knowledge about partitions is required... But at >> least, some warning should be displayed before applying modifications! >> >> I guess a graph showing how the partitions will look like after >> modifications might help users to understand what is being done. Something >> similar to the graph presented before, at choosing step... Confirmation on >> this crucial steps is important! >> >> >> >> 2013/10/24 Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> >> >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> Today, there is another person, who misunderstood the partitioning >>> dialogue of the desktop installer. >>> >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183287 >>> >>> 'When I went to install 13.10 I chose the option to remove windows and >>> replace with Ubuntu. I had two partitions when I chose this. One with >>> files I wanted to keep and the other being the windows 7 partition. When >>> I chose to remove windows I assumed it would be placed on my C drive and >>> not my other one. But what actually ended up happening was all my >>> partitions merged into one deleting everything. Now I only have Ubuntu >>> on my drive. I need help retrieving my files please!' >>> >>> -o- >>> >>> This is what I have been telling, when describing the One Button >>> Installer >>> >>> '... >>> Case 1: Tool that is easy to use and just works >>> >>> The normal linux installers that come with iso files are complicated to >>> use or freeze during the installation process, and you want a tool that >>> is easier to use and just works. >>> ... >>> a. The Desktop Installer is flexible and looks nice, and is generally >>> easy to understand, but the partitioning page can make people confused. >>> There are several threads at the Ubuntu Forums describing installations, >>> where a previous system has been overwritten by mistake. ...' >>> >>> It is really too bad, and something that should be improved in 14.04 >>> >>> Best regards >>> Nio >>> >>> -- >>> Lubuntu-users mailing list >>> lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lubuntu-users mailing list >> lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >> >> -- >> Lubuntu-users mailing list >> lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >> >> > > > IMHO, improvements on the instructions are always welcome, I agree. > > However regular Windows users tend not to read as much as Linux users. > They're too much used to next, next, ok on the installation process. > > So, will they read the improved instructions? Will they watch the video > tutorial? > > Marinara has a nice video on YouTube showing how to use the alternate > installer: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi-VPj4jzrg > > Tutorial is available since 2012 with less than 6k views. Again, will they > watch the video tutorial? > > Thinking deeply... is the video not so watched/popular because people > don't search for it or is the video not so watched because it's just put in > a bad place in our wiki/docs? I really do not know how to trace this user > experience. :-( > > Google search results page is not bad if you type the right queries: > http://goo.gl/VH3Vo9 > > I'm sure it's better to have good instructions than not having. But it's > even better to have educated users than having the lazy ones. > > Before migrating to dual boot, I was already used to: > > 1) making regular backups; > 2) read a lot before acting; > 3) keep bookmarks or notes of my readings > > A good example of my old days of learning how to partition is the > following link to the brazilian Linux Magazine. Although the article is in > portuguese, the images show perfectly what's going on with partitioning: > > http://www.lnm.com.br/lm/materia/particionamento_ideal_no_ubuntu > > So can we improve? Yes, sure. Will newcomers improve their computing > education, reading manuals, tutorials and how tos? > > I'd keep those questions in mind once some of the community resources are > scarce... > > My 2 cents. > > Iberê > >
Google search results page is not bad either if anyone is interested in learning how to install Ubuntu but keep Windows documents: http://goo.gl/j5rDU3 That's the link I meant when I quoted the SRP for dual booting. Best regards, Iberê
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