William, I am with you. But still "remove windows" leaves the would-be ubuntu user to think that there may be a way to put it back later...
Perhaps "remove windows and all your files completely - they cannot be recovered except possibly from whatever backup you have" would be better. On 2013-10-24 8:41 AM, "William" <wjck...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 10/24/2013 09:05 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) > <amjja...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> On 2013-10-24 15:31, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: >>> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com >>> > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi everybody, >>> > >>> > Today, there is another person, who misunderstood the partitioning >>> > dialogue of the desktop installer. >>> > >>> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183287 >>> > >>> > 'When I went to install 13.10 I chose the option to remove windows >>> and >>> > replace with Ubuntu. I had two partitions when I chose this. One >>> with >>> > files I wanted to keep and the other being the windows 7 >>> partition. When >>> > I chose to remove windows I assumed it would be placed on my C >>> drive and >>> > not my other one. But what actually ended up happening was all my >>> > partitions merged into one deleting everything. Now I only have >>> Ubuntu >>> > on my drive. I need help retrieving my files please!' >>> > >>> > -o- >>> > >>> > This is what I have been telling, when describing the One Button >>> > Installer >>> > >>> > '... >>> > Case 1: Tool that is easy to use and just works >>> > >>> > The normal linux installers that come with iso files are >>> complicated to >>> > use or freeze during the installation process, and you want a tool >>> that >>> > is easier to use and just works. >>> > ... >>> > a. The Desktop Installer is flexible and looks nice, and is >>> generally >>> > easy to understand, but the partitioning page can make people >>> confused. >>> > There are several threads at the Ubuntu Forums describing >>> installations, >>> > where a previous system has been overwritten by mistake. ...' >>> > >>> > It is really too bad, and something that should be improved in >>> 14.04 >>> > >>> > Best regards >>> > Nio >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > All that can be solved in one two 'very' simple steps: >>> > >>> > 1- Create a YouTube Video that explains in details HOWTO Install Ubuntu >>> > with all the possible cases >>> > 2- Add a link for that YouTube Video right next to the Download Link so >>> > those who download Ubuntu or any flavour can 'watch' and 'learn' how to >>> > install the system >>> > >>> > Time is money and saving time is a very important factor in just 6 >>> > months cycle :) >>> > >>> > Just a very quick thought! >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >>> > Best Regards, >>> > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> >>> > Areas of Involvement < >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> >>> > My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects> >>> >>> 1. I do think it is important to improve the text in the installer itself >>> >> >> Any suggestions? for someone who failed to backup his/her important >> data before actually wiping his/her HDD, I'd only think he/she will not >> even bother to read any text :) >> >> >> >>> because those who might need the video might not play it. >>> >> >> As I mentioned, the Link of that HOWTO Video must be posted right next >> to the Download Link with a Note: >> >> "Please, see/watch this video BEFORE you install the system" :) >> >> Those who fail to 'read' any improved text or watch the video, can >> blame no one but themselves. >> >> Backing up is the very first step. This must be mentioned clearly next >> to each and every download link, IMHO :) >> >> >>> >>> 2. I wrote that it should be improved in 14.04, which is an LTS version, >>> so more than 6 months are involved. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Nio >>> >> >> Well, this is not for me to decide. This will go into so many >> discussions and will take time. Why NOT save the time and just go for the >> easiest solution rather than changing the whole thing just because 'some' >> users who can't read nor backup their data? >> >> But YES, I am WITH any improvement that makes life easier. However, >> time is the real challenge that we do have. While 6 months may look enough >> for that, IMHO, each minute should be carefully considered :) that is just >> me though! >> >> Thanks! >> > > Thanks a lot, Nio :D > > You have reminded me to add a very important note that I forgot to add!!! > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME > > http://ubuntugnome.org/download > > Once my voice is back to normal (when this ugly flu leaves me alone), I > might create a Video and Adding it to our Area on Ubuntu GNOME Website and > Wiki Page :) > > Highly appreciate the inspiration :D > > > -- > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > Best Regards, > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> > Areas of Involvement<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> > My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects> > > > While I have nothing but the greatest of heartbreaking sympathy for > people who wipe their Windows partition by mistake in this manner, I truly > cannot fathom what they are failing to interpret in the option "remove > windows". The existence of the option to install side-by-side should make > the meaning of "remove windows" even more completely obvious than it > already is. But still, even if the side-by-side option were not present... > One can only be hand-held so much, but I am starting to think that when the > "remove windows" option is selected, 3 maybe even 4, impossible to > misinterpret dialogue boxes should follow. Advising someone on the last one > to stop right there if they still don't understand while referring them to > online documentation. > > -- > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > ubuntu-qual...@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > >
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