On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2013-10-24 15:54, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com > > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > On 2013-10-24 15:31, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Nio Wiklund > > <nio.wikl...@gmail.com <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com> > > > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>>> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > Today, there is another person, who misunderstood the > partitioning > > > dialogue of the desktop installer. > > > > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183287 > > > > > > 'When I went to install 13.10 I chose the option to remove > > windows and > > > replace with Ubuntu. I had two partitions when I chose this. > > One with > > > files I wanted to keep and the other being the windows 7 > > partition. When > > > I chose to remove windows I assumed it would be placed on my C > > drive and > > > not my other one. But what actually ended up happening was all > my > > > partitions merged into one deleting everything. Now I only > > have Ubuntu > > > on my drive. I need help retrieving my files please!' > > > > > > -o- > > > > > > This is what I have been telling, when describing the One > Button > > > Installer > > > > > > '... > > > Case 1: Tool that is easy to use and just works > > > > > > The normal linux installers that come with iso files are > > complicated to > > > use or freeze during the installation process, and you want a > > tool that > > > is easier to use and just works. > > > ... > > > a. The Desktop Installer is flexible and looks nice, and is > > generally > > > easy to understand, but the partitioning page can make people > > confused. > > > There are several threads at the Ubuntu Forums describing > > installations, > > > where a previous system has been overwritten by mistake. ...' > > > > > > It is really too bad, and something that should be improved in > > 14.04 > > > > > > Best regards > > > Nio > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > All that can be solved in one two 'very' simple steps: > > > > > > 1- Create a YouTube Video that explains in details HOWTO Install > > Ubuntu > > > with all the possible cases > > > 2- Add a link for that YouTube Video right next to the Download > > Link so > > > those who download Ubuntu or any flavour can 'watch' and 'learn' > > how to > > > install the system > > > > > > Time is money and saving time is a very important factor in just 6 > > > months cycle :) > > > > > > Just a very quick thought! > > > > > > -- > > > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > > Best Regards, > > > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> > > > Areas of Involvement > > <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> > > > My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects> > > > > 1. I do think it is important to improve the text in the installer > > itself > > > > > > Any suggestions? for someone who failed to backup his/her important data > > before actually wiping his/her HDD, I'd only think he/she will not even > > bother to read any text :) > > > > > > > > because those who might need the video might not play it. > > > > > > As I mentioned, the Link of that HOWTO Video must be posted right next > > to the Download Link with a Note: > > > > "Please, see/watch this video BEFORE you install the system" :) > > > > Those who fail to 'read' any improved text or watch the video, can blame > > no one but themselves. > > > > Backing up is the very first step. This must be mentioned clearly next > > to each and every download link, IMHO :) > > > > > > > > 2. I wrote that it should be improved in 14.04, which is an LTS > version, > > so more than 6 months are involved. > > > > Best regards > > Nio > > > > > > Well, this is not for me to decide. This will go into so many > > discussions and will take time. Why NOT save the time and just go for > > the easiest solution rather than changing the whole thing just because > > 'some' users who can't read nor backup their data? > > > > But YES, I am WITH any improvement that makes life easier. However, time > > is the real challenge that we do have. While 6 months may look enough > > for that, IMHO, each minute should be carefully considered :) that is > > just me though! > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > Best Regards, > > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> > > Areas of Involvement < > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> > > My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects> > > It is not either - or > We need both > Fine by me :) > > 1. I'll be very happy if someone makes a video I can do that but as I mentioned, I need to get my normal voice back :) > and puts links to it at strategic places, so that many people find it and > play it. > I have access to Ubuntu GNOME Website and of course the Wiki Area. I can't speak for Ubuntu and other Flavours :) > > 2. But it is not enough. The text in the installer itself needs > improvement, and it should not be too time-consuming to make such an > improvement. I am not the one who will decide how much time that will take! All what I mentioned is 'the discussion', for example, the one we are doing right now, might take longer time :) > Some people need to sit down and check what has been > misunderstood and try to imagine what can be misunderstood by beginners. > I agree! > And rewrite those descriptions and instructions. In a second step it is > important to involve those who translate the text into all the languages. > Why not? :) > > I'd volunteer to such a group. > > Best regards > Nio > I would create one :P But seriously, I'd do the same thing :) -- Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." Best Regards, amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> Areas of Involvement <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects>
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