It seems that this is going to take some time to resolve :^)

We always mention in the release notes that "this is an alpha so expect bugs".

ATM I sort of think this time we should say something like:

"Due to recent kernel and xorg changes we know that the alpha 2 images are 
finicky (could use the word "problematic") with some hardware. We're continuing 
to look into this issue, but if you can't boot the live image to a working DE 
we recommend not installing this alpha 2 image".

That's a rough draft.

What do you all think?

Lance




________________________________
 From: Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com>
To: Lance <lbsol...@yahoo.com> 
Cc: Jonathan Marsden <jmars...@fastmail.fm>; Phill Whiteside 
<phi...@ubuntu.com>; lubuntu-qa <lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net>; Lars Noodén 
<lars.noo...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Prepping for the last upgrade test
 

I'm glad you can install the server Lance.

I guess you mean that it works in your VIA computer. One more thing that
works :-)

And yes, we might have different problems. Phill and I might also have
different problems ... or two or three of us have the same problem.

Could it be that some package comes as a different version from the iso
compared to via the network? So that we share the problem with Lars? I
think this is the case with the kernel (which makes a difference with
zRAM). Could there be some other package too?

Best regards
Nio

On 2013-07-25 10:59, Lance wrote:
> The server image worked OK so it's likely an Xorg bug.
> 
> But Nio is having trouble too:
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1203852
> 
> I sort of think that we're having two different problems but I'm not sure.
> 
> Lance
> 
> PS: sorry for the top posting but I have a hardware mess right now so
> I'm just "getting by" :^(
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Lance <lbsol...@yahoo.com>
> *To:* Jonathan Marsden <jmars...@fastmail.fm>; Phill Whiteside
> <phi...@ubuntu.com>
> *Cc:* lubuntu-qa <lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:54 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Prepping for the last upgrade test
> 
> I'd never tried a server daily image.
> 
> For that matter I haven't installed a server image since maybe 2007 :^(
> 
> So far I've tried the Xubuntu Alpha 2 image and I know it fails too.
> 
> I have also captured some screenshots with my camera, but this may take
> a while.
> 
> Anyway I'm trying this server image now:
> 
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/pending/
> 
> It shows last updated 07/25 so I'll see what happens.
> 
> Lance
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Jonathan Marsden <jmars...@fastmail.fm>
> *To:* Lance <lbsol...@yahoo.com>; Phill Whiteside <phi...@ubuntu.com>
> *Cc:* lubuntu-qa <lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:11 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Prepping for the last upgrade test
> 
> Lance,
> 
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Lance wrote:
> 
>> So, I need to figure out if it's the kernel or X ................... that
>> could take a while.
> 
> Boot and install Ubuntu Server.  If that works, the kernel is OK :)
> 
> You could also use the mini.iso if you prefer.
> 
> Jonathan
> -- 
>   Jonathan Marsden
>  jmars...@fastmail.fm <mailto:jmars...@fastmail.fm>
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