On 06/04/2013 03:35 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > Dear Jonathan, > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Jonathan Marsden > <jmars...@fastmail.fm <mailto:jmars...@fastmail.fm>> wrote: > > Ali, > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013, at 02:17 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > > > > If data and numbers are what you are looking for, give me few hours > > > and I will provide you with the numbers of users who would LOVE to see > > > this option and that would be ONLY from users on Facebook. ... > > > > Asking people on social media "who would like this?" is TOTALLY > > unhelpful. There is zero cost to them if they say yes -- they expect > > *others* to do the work for them, for free! So anyone who just thinks > > that would be "cool", or something, will say yes, radically inflating > > the count. > > I fail to see the difference between a Social Media site and The > Mailing List? :) > > Are you underestimating the social media sites? do you have any idea > how much activities are taking place daily? I'm in charge of that area > and I can tell you that the activities over there are MUCH more than > the activities over here and Ubuntu Forums together, in fact even much > more than that. I'm not exaggerating at all :) > > However, I agree with you about one thing: > > *"> they expect *others* to do the work for them, for free! " > * > And that is the exact same scenario over here :) > > They do have experience. They know a lot about Lubuntu. They are very > very very friendly and interact professionally. PLEASE, do not > underestimate them nor the social media :) > > https://www.facebook.com/Lubuntu.Official.Page/posts/538192306215849 > > No need to have a facebook account to view the above link, it is public. > > > What we need is to define how many users have hardware that is too old > > to install Lubuntu from a current LiveCD or Alternate CD, but new > > enough to install and run Lubuntu Core. Then we need to get an idea > > how many of this group of users are unable to boot the mini.iso and > > select the "Lubuntu minimal" install from it, and why that approach > > does not work for them when they try it. > > We are not going to replace this with our main ISOs. > Why it is a huge deal? I'm trying to offer more options that work > out-of-the-box for some Lubuntu Users. If that will add extra work and > headache for the Devs team, that would never make me happy, especially > if this extra work will affect our main focus. As long as one can do > it manually, NO real big deal. I'm just trying to go extra miles and > apparently, I hoped for too much. > > I totally got your point. You are absolutely right. I can answer you > with such data when you guys give me/us the same for how many users > are using Lubuntu :D > As long as this was and will remain an unknown figure, I can't give > you such data. After all, my data will mostly be collected from Social > Networks which you consider 'unhelpful' so that would be useless and > waste of time :) > > > > If they are regularly using Facebook, most likely they have a decent > > Internet connection, so mini.iso and selecting Lubuntu minimal install > > should work very well for such folks. > > > > Jonathan > > -- > > You could be right about that too :) > > Thank you and sorry if I wasted your time and others as well. > > I will not give up. I will find someone with better skills than myself > who may be able to create such community version. > > Or > > Someone who is familiar with what Julien > posted: https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+junk/lubuntu-tools > <https://code.launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop/+junk/lubuntu-tools> > > As I don't really know what that link can do or what is all about. > > -- > Best Regards, > amjjawad > Start Ubuntu > > Test Machine: ASUS F3F Laptop - Intel Core Duo T2350 @ 1.86GHz with > 489MB RAM @ Ali,
I think what Jonathan was trying to say is that polls in general are unreliable :^) Even more so when those who participate in the poll do little to contribute to the project. That certainly does not include you. You're a totally valuable member of the Lubuntu team Ali! Lance
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