And I had to go back to my archive on Gmail to find more about it: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:33 PM*, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For the ones like me who are not cryptologists, PAE : Physical Address >> Extension. >> See >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Physical_Address_Extension<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension> >> a >> good definition. >> But* I'd like to know why it's important (if at all) and how it relates >> to Lubuntu.* > > > We had that discussion before but I can tell you are new to our mailing > list so allow me to explain briefly about that :) > > Some old machines has *NON-PAE CPU*. If you have a Linux Distribution > with a *PAE Kernel*, then that system will not be bootable on a machine > with NON-PAE CPU. > > During the development of 12.04, both Xubuntu and Lubuntu teams decided to > go for a NON-PAE Kernel (Generic Kernel - run "uname -r" in the terminal) > so those users with NON-PAE CPU will not have any problem and they still > can use Lubuntu and Xubuntu 12.04. > > Ubuntu Kernel Team has decided to drop the NON-PAE Kernel and go for PAE > Kernel. > As per Julien, we can't go against that unless we hire a developer who can > make it possible. > We don't have any database/numbers of how many users over there with a > NON-PAE CPU, that is why I asked :) > > Hope it helps :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Above is an old discussion about PAE and NON-PAE Kernels :) We managed to go NON-PAE for 12.04 but we couldn't for 12.10 :) Hope everything is clear now ;) Anyone can go back to the mailing list archive if desired :) On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjja...@gmail.com>wrote: > Hi there David :) > > I would strongly recommend to have a read here: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu#System_Requirements > > and I'm sure you may want to re-phrase what you previously said :) > > Lubuntu 12.04 is using a NON-PAE Kernel. Well, the link says it all :) > > Thanks! > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:59 AM, David Gumberg <davidnoizgumb...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> For those of you who are wondering, the reason older machines can't run >> 12.10 or 12.04, it's because the kernel uses PAE (it's a method to have >> more than 4 gigs of ram on a 32-bit operating system I think), and for >> those of you who have hardware that doesn't support PAE, the two good >> alternatives are LXLE and Fedora (LXDE spin). If you want something more >> upstream, go with the Fedora, but if for some reason you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO >> have that Debian/buntu experience I'd go with LXLE (Lubuntu Extra-Life >> Edition), it's Lubuntu 12.04 with a couple of tweaks, and it uses a non-PAE >> kernel. I've tried and used both of them, and and Fedora is a bit more >> vanilla LXDE so I prefer it, but both alternatives are awesome! >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) >> <amjja...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've been discussing this issue and Lubuntu 12.04 being 100% LTS or not >>> [1] and all the confusion about "will Lubuntu still support my very old >>> machine or not?" for the last two weeks or maybe more. >>> >>> Long story short, I will jump in and find out myself some if not all the >>> answers that our users are seeking and looking for. >>> >>> http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/lucid/ >>> I'm downloading Lubuntu 10.04 right now from the above link. >>> >>> I will install it once done on my test machine. >>> I need to see myself what is going on and the EOL for the 10.04 Desktop >>> version is coming soon, less than a month. That will be really interesting >>> :) >>> As you know/may know, each release has different Kernel [2]. Some >>> machines can't use 12.04 or 12.10 because the support had been >>> dropped/stopped. So, if you guys have Qs about that, you do now know who is >>> doing the test and experiments. >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> [1] - http://i46.tinypic.com/i24igz.jpg >>> >>> [2] - >>> http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/04/lubuntu-and-very-old-machines.html<http://amjjawad.blogspot.ae/2013/04/lubuntu-and-very-old-machines.html> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Phill Whiteside <phi...@ubuntu.com>wrote: >>> >>>> I have an update for 10.04 >>>> >>>> *Ending Ubuntu Desktop support just means that we no longer release >>>> desktop- >>>> related updates, the repository won't (can't) go away and be archived, >>>> since >>>> server, as you note, still depends on it. In that sense, lucid in >>>> general >>>> is "supported" for another three years. Nothing changes for people, >>>> they >>>> just won't get non-server SRUs and security updates from Canonical, nor >>>> is >>>> there a community commitment to make them. >>>> >>>> So, your users don't need to do anything. Kernels will keep getting >>>> updated, >>>> and life goes on.* >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Phill. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29 March 2013 21:21, Phill Whiteside <phi...@ubuntu.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>> >>>>> just so everyone knows. The up coming EOL dates were a little bit >>>>> staggered on the exact dates. To bring everything together, the Release >>>>> Team have decided upon the following. >>>>> >>>>> The following releases will all reach End Of Life on May 9th 2013. >>>>> >>>>> Hardy 8.04 (Server) >>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 (Desk Top) >>>>> Ubuntu 11.10 >>>>> >>>>> As 10.04 is supported on server until 2015 thus giving such people at >>>>> least a chance of still receiving kernel updates, I have asked if there is >>>>> a way for the 10.04 lubuntu desktop to continue to receive the kernel >>>>> updates for lubuntu 10.04 desktop for those of whom the dropping of the >>>>> old >>>>> chip sets is the only option they have. >>>>> >>>>> The area at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases has been updated by the >>>>> team to reflect the revised dates. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Phill. >>>>> -- >>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs >>>> Post to : lubuntu-wiki-d...@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Best Regards, >>> amjjawad* >>> *https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/* >>> Lubuntu One Stop Thread<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755>| >>> My Launchpad <https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad> | My Ubuntu Forum >>> Profile <http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822> >>> ** >>> >>> -- >>> Lubuntu-users mailing list >>> lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >>> >>> >> > > > -- > *Best Regards, > amjjawad* > *https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/* > Lubuntu One Stop Thread <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755>| > My Launchpad <https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad> | My Ubuntu Forum > Profile<http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822> > ** > -- *Best Regards, amjjawad* *https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/* Lubuntu One Stop Thread <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755>| My Launchpad <https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad> | My Ubuntu Forum Profile<http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822> **
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