Thank you for the wise words and valuable link :-) Best regards Nio
On 2013-11-16 03:02, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Just my thoughts... > > I hate 'councils' with a passion. I also hate the badge of 'team leader' > for the sub-groups. All any team requires is an admin person who looks > after the day to day 'paper work'. The lubunteers do the work and chat > to each other all the time. I fail to see how a 'council' would help in > any way and also feel it would drive people away. Let me just remind you > of a 'rule' of freenode which is about catalysts..... > > http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml > > I broke that, and resigned from my positions; but I do ask that you > consider this... > > ... not through the use of authority and special privilege, .... > > When ubuntu-beginners created a council, it was the death, UBT no longer > exists. > > So, other lubunteers, please think long and hard about raising a > 'council'; IMHO, it is a really bad idea and even though I have stepped > down from 'official' stuff... I wanted to let you know my thoughts. > > My kindest regards, > > Phill. > > > > > On 15 November 2013 20:26, Federico Leoni <effe...@gmail.com > <mailto:effe...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > 2013/11/15 David Yentzen <dbyent...@gmail.com > <mailto:dbyent...@gmail.com>>: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) > <amjja...@gmail.com <mailto:amjja...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Lubuntu Community, > >> > >> Kindly have a read at this Blueprint/Proposal: > >> > >> > >> > > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-community-council > >> > >> And, if you are using a Cell Phone or any device and for whatever > reason > >> can't access the link, here is the text: > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Lubuntu Community Council is my proposal/idea to clean the > current mess in > >> Lubuntu Community and solve the pending issues that the community > is facing > >> in order to move forward to build a healthy community and a rock > solid > >> system for old machines with LTS. > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> Given Information: > >> ------------------------------ > >> 1- Lubuntu Community Has NO Actual Leader Starting from 15-May-2012 - > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001516.html > >> > >> 2- Lubuntu Community and Sub-Teams are a real mess. Lubuntu > Communications > >> Sub-Team and Lubuntu QA Team are both without 'Active' Team > Leaders. The > >> whole team needs a clean up, reorganize and re-assessment. > >> > >> 3- The Activities of the Community has dropped due to lack of > >> communications and some core old members of the team has > left/quit/resigned > >> and the rest are inactive and only very few are still active but > that is not > >> enough. > >> > >> 4- Lubuntu 13.10 was a bit of disappointment for as per users and > members > >> feedback and some nasty bugs. > >> > >> ----------------- > >> Roadmap: > >> ----------------- > >> A- Not only one person must lead Lubuntu but instead of that, a > Community > >> Council consists of many members - the idea inspired by: > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil > >> > >> B- LCC (Lubuntu Community Council) elect one member to lead this > Community > >> Council at the very beginning of each release cycle and this > election will > >> take place every 6 months. Members of LCC will elect their leaders. > >> > >> C- This is a NON-Technical Board or Council. > >> > >> D- This Council is in charge of: > >> 1- Lubuntu Guards and Keepers - make sure everything goes as > smooth as > >> possible and make sure Ubuntu Code of Conducts applies and > everyone respects > >> the other. > >> 2- Make sure to build a healthy community based on Team Work, > Sharing and > >> Motivation. > >> 3- No Dictatorship: No one will lead the whole community but > instead a > >> group of people will do that. > >> 4- Any Lubuntu Member can be a member of this Community Council. > >> 5- Team Leaders of Lubuntu Sub-Teams are members of this Council. > >> > >> E- Requirements: > >> 1- Must be Active Lubuntu Member at least for 6 months Minimum. > >> 2- Members must have proven record of some Lubuntu Community > Experience > >> (NON-Technical) and members with minimum one year with Lubuntu > Community are > >> preferred. > >> 3- Technical People can join but the above points (#1 and #2) > must apply. > >> 4- Must sign Ubuntu Code of Conducts. > >> 5- Must have a Wiki Page. > >> 6- Must have proven record of team work. > >> 7- Friendly and nice. > >> 8- Must communicate. > >> 9- Must leave a note if he/she is busy or will be away. > >> 10- Before stepping down, must give a notice > >> > >> F- Decision Making: > >> Lubuntu Community Council is in charge of decision making and the > future > >> of Lubuntu is between the hands of this council. HOWEVER, NO > decision to be > >> made UNLESS the whole community (members+users) must be aware of > that - to > >> send an email to the mailing list. Some decisions can be made by this > >> council if and only if it is a derision that requires a high skill of > >> Community Experience + Technical Experience which other users may > not meet > >> this requirement. But all in all, each and every decision will be > made > >> publicly. > >> > >> G- Meeting: > >> Lubuntu Community Council must have at least one meeting per > month. Even > >> better, one meeting every two weeks if possible. After the > meeting, the log > >> must be shared with everyone belong to Lubuntu Community + must > be published > >> on Lubuntu Social Media > >> > >> H- Launchpad: > >> This Council must have a Launchpad Team + a Mailing List. The > >> owner/creator of that team on Launchpad is NOT necessarily the > leader of > >> this Council. He/She could be anyone who would like to help to > set up this > >> area. > >> > >> I- This proposal idea will be on this blueprint. Lubuntu > Brainstorming > >> Team will be assigned to this proposal. Team Leader of Lubuntu > Brainstorming > >> Team must send an email to both Lubuntu Brainstorming Team + The > General > >> Mailing List. > >> > >> J- Discussion will be made here and if most of the active members of > >> Lubuntu Community Agree, this idea will be implemented immediately. > >> > >> K- Lubuntu Community Members can propose some changes on the > above but > >> must communicate first with Lubuntu Brainstorming Team before doing > >> anything. Or simply, just add your comment to the whiteboard. > >> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Thank you! > >> > >> amjjawad > >> Lubuntu Brainstorming Team Leader > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad > >> > >> -- > >> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > >> Best Regards, > >> amjjawad > >> Areas of Involvement > >> My Projects > >> > >> -- > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-brainstorming > <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-brainstorming> > >> Post to : lubuntu-brainstorm...@lists.launchpad.net > <mailto:lubuntu-brainstorm...@lists.launchpad.net> > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-brainstorming > <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-brainstorming> > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > > > > > > Dear Lubuntu Community, > > +1 This is an excellent idea. Lubuntu, in the long term, is > better off > > being led by a rotating group of active members of the community. This > > ensures the workload and tasks of the community are shared among > members and > > avoids individual member burnout or overburden. > > If this is not done and Lubuntu continues in its current > direction, I do not > > hold high hopes for it long-term. Every organization, at some > point in its > > early development, makes the transition from a small size to a > larger more > > complex size. How successfully this is done determines, in a large > way, the > > long-term success of the organization. The community council model > is the > > best way to ensure Lubuntu's continued existence because it more > fairly > > distributes the tasks and no one person becomes overburdened. > > Let's move forward. > > > > Best Regards, > > David Yentzen > > https://launchpad.net/~dbyentzen <https://launchpad.net/%7Edbyentzen> > > > > -- > > Lubuntu-users mailing list > > lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com> > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > > > I agree Ali, > > this could be a good way to back on track, and Lubuntu really needs > that now. LTS is not so far as we can think and without a good > reorganization we will fail. The problem is, who could be a member of > the new council? Not me, as you know Ali I can't assume control on any > Team now, nor help constantly. My real life (and my new business > incoming) first. Beside that I travel A LOT, so would be difficult to > properly follow a project. > > Mmmmm.... Curiously I'm still here working for testing/QA. :) > > F. > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa > <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-qa> > Post to : lubuntu...@lists.launchpad.net > <mailto:lubuntu...@lists.launchpad.net> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa > <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-qa> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > -- > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms Post to : lubuntu-comms@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
