answers in line by Iberê:
2013/11/3 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjja...@gmail.com> > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Iberê Fernandes <ibere.fernan...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> 2013/11/2 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjja...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> > Hi my friend, > > > >> If you're going to stay as a friendly consultant and I'm an active >> Lubuntu member, you can give me access/ownership of those properties. >> > > This has nothing to do about what role shall I have with Lubuntu Community > :) > I am the creator and founder of WOWLubuntu. I am no longer interested. I > am trying to focus on the most important task/projects at the moment so I > won't burn out. > +1. But remember to don't be a stranger. Stay cool and friendly. > > For more in depth, please have a read at: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Lubuntu-Team#My_Projects_with_Lubuntu_Team > > There is a link for WOWLubuntu Wiki Page where you can read and understand > why I founded WOWLubuntu and what was the purpose for all that. Too bad, it > was all that time a one-man-task + few help every now and then. Dan and > Rafael helped and that was so kind of them. I have always wanted to make > something big out of this project but due to so many roles and the limited > time, I couldn't do much. Now, I am simply handing it over to someone who > might be interested :) > > >> >> HOWEVER, from my point of view, I've never understood why so many >> channels if we have so few headcount. >> > > That is a long story but I will be very much happy to explain it to you > and others if you are interested ;) > Share the long story when you have time. No rush once nothing will be shutdown without thinking. > > > >> >> From my side (note it's only my opinion), I'd show all those >> channels/links to the Lubuntu community and propose to stay with only 2 >> social media channels as of today: Lubuntu Official at FB and G+. >> > > Yes and No. Good and Bad idea. > Yes and Good? because Lubuntu Team these days is not as active as it used > to be before. > No and bad? because each channel has its specific purpose and do a > specific task, depending on the nature of the platform of that channel. > > Example: While it might be similar to someone that Facebook and Google+ > are alike, I must tell from experience that the growth on Google+ could be > super fast compared to Facebook. Even more, Twitter could be the ultimate > one when it comes to the growth and all that depends on the nature of that > platform/channel. > > It is a bit tricky situation. I hope you see my point. > Yes, the although the social media "kings" are alike, I see they're different, and their public/users are differento too. Btw, the users are the most important thing to keep in mind. > > >> >> Why as of today? Today FB is the major social media channel. >> > > +1 > > > >> The like thing is spreaded all over. G+ comes behind, with a slightly >> different approach. So if FB fails sometime in the future, and the >> BLABLABLA (let's call blablabla the new social media king) becomes >> relevant, then I'd think about opening a new Lubuntu social media property >> there at BLABLABLA. >> > > I do see your point but why would you shut down an already existing > channel and re-open it again? this is a waste of time, energy and > resources. I hope I did understand what you mean and if not, correct me :D > I'm not talking about reopening a defunct channel. Let me try to rephrase: FB is the "king" of social media today. FB may fail in the future. A new social media "king" may be created by some Sillicon Valley dude. So now I think we should create a Lubuntu Official group in that new social media "king". Got it? Think how many "king" Internet properties existed in the past and how many of them still exist today as kings: search engines, webmail providers, groups (Usenet, Egroups, Yahoo! Groups, Google Groups). That's what I meant. > > >> >> The good thing of having both FB and G+ official channels is that >> there're lots of newcomers/windows users becoming Lubuntu users from those >> channels. >> > > +1 > > > >> >> I'd call that Project Cleaning/Focus. >> > > Very much interesting project. However, the current team is inactive. This > must be a community job, not a one or two men job! > Yes, that's why nothing will be done now. But when the team is active, we need to hear from our community. > > > >> We have too many sub-teams, too many mkt/social media channels, and so >> few headcount to do action. >> > > +1 > But you can always change that ;) > > Two simple way: > 1- Cleaning up > 2- Even better, get an active team (recruit or motivate the current > members). > > > >> >> Anyway, I'm not criticizing what you've done. >> > > NO worries, please feel free to say whatever you feel right and helpful :) > > > >> Just my strict point of view: focus/simplicity make a great product/dish. >> > > I understand that. > > >> >> So, are you handing me those properties? Trust me, I won't do anything >> without asking first to our loved community. >> >> Best regards, >> > > If I don't trust you, I would not make this conversation with you to begin > with :P > Hey, you can always refer back to the original founder :D :P > I can't get rid of my kids so easily heheh > > That was my reply to your email. > > Now, I think I must say something. > > First thing first, thank you so much for: > 1- Stepping in > 2- Offering your help > 3- Sharing your thoughts - I LOVE THAT. > 4- Suggesting and giving solution instead of just highlighting the > issue/problem > 5- Being so helpful and nice - this is something rare these days > > Second of all, while I totally agree with you, however, there is something > very important that you and other mates need to be aware of. > Kind words. Thank you. > > Any Social Media, Facebook, Google+ and/or Twitter ... will never grow > bigger all by itself unless you feed it. Same like a planet on your garden. > Without Water, Sun and Good Soil, it will simply, die. > > Any Social Media, without ANY Interaction between > > Part A : the Admin and that Media > > Part B: between the Admin and the Subscribers and > > Part C: between the Subscribers and that Media > > this site/media will: > > 1- Never grow up > 2- Is useless > > Now, here is the tricky part: > Before starting the Cleaning Up/Focus Project, you need to evaluate and > identity where the problem is? Part A? Part B? Part C? > > Being a Former Comms TL for Lubuntu and being a current Founder and TL of > Ubuntu GNOME Comms, speaking from experience, and if I still may make an > observation/remark/feedback/suggestion, then I must say that the problem is > with: > > Part A > > Because, if Part A is active and doing well, other parts will interact > sooner or later. > > Also, there is a very important note that I have raised 1-2 months ago but > NO one showed any interest and ignored that :) > The Note is: You need to understand there are two factors - Quality and > Quantity. While Quantity does matter, Quality is even more important. And > again, it is the team's job to maintain both good level of Quality and > Quantity and find a good balance between them. > > Example? > > Look at the Facebook Group for Lubuntu. > Before, when we had less than 300 members, the group was perfect when it > comes to quality. > Now, it has over 700 members but I'm following up with the activities. I > am sorry but the quality level is getting low big time. However, that is my > opinion :) > > Back to your project, I am offering my help and full support: > > Here is the list of all the channels: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs > > I have offered my first quick and simple evaluation to everything in this > email :) > > If you or anyone else need more explanation, please ask :) > > > -- > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > Best Regards, > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> > Areas of Involvement <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> > My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects> > Just one more thing to keep in mind: "if you build, they'll come/ if you plant, they'll come". I'm not sure exactly how the quote was, but the idea is that if you build and show your products to the market, the products will be bought by the consumers". In Economy, this strategy proved to be wrong. The climax of doing things wrong is the New York 1929 Crash: too many offered products, so few consumers to buy. I understand and respect your view. Thank you for sharing. When the Lubuntu Community and Lubuntu Comms become more active, we'll have good points to discuss and make smart decisions. Thank you for your help! -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ibere-Fernandes
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