On 06/29/2013 04:39 PM, Federico Leoni wrote: > When I wrote "... nor I can get autostart file to work" I meant the > autostart file (located in > /home/effe/.config/lxsession/LubuntuCMP/autostart) doesn't start > programs inserted with @ like on the other file on Lubuntu folder. > In fact, this is the SAME file copied.
OK, but there are a lot of places for an lxsession autostart file to exist, so it's necessary to state which one, if you want anyone else to be able to do anything useful, such as duplicate the issue in order to resolve it. The ~/.config/lxsession/*/autostart files are intended for individual user overrides of, or additions to, the system-wide defaults. So you would not really want to use that location for a new session type, which could be used by many users on one machine. I think you want to use /etc/xdg/lxsession/LubuntuCMP/autostart or similar. But IMO anyone creating new sessions for commercial use which they will then need to support, should already know this :) > As already told I'm not new to linux but for sure I need to learn > more. You right, I'm doing it for business purpouse, is for that > reason I join this group starting to ask for help. If you don't think > is the right place I'll humbly stop writing here and start asking on > forums. As long as the work you do is shared, and made publically available under appropriate open source licences, for me there's no direct issue or problem with it being "for business". However, that business-oriented goal requires a high level of knowledge, and ability to offer good in depth technical support to your paying clients. Getting to that point can take a long time, as well as the willingness to learn. I've been using Linux since 1992, running Internet-facing servers on Linux since 1994 :) It gets Lubuntu and Linux as a whole a "bad name" when someone promotes its use in a business environment, businesses believe them and pay for help getting started, etc. -- and then the Linux promoter cannot support it fully when the business has critical time-sensitive issues! My guess is that you are at least tens of hours of technical work and learning away from being able to confidently offer the appropriate level of support for business users for these customized Lubuntu desktops. So, until then, I would suggest you develop your customizations of the Lubuntu DE "out in the open", as part of the existing Lubuntu community, putting the info you learn on a public wiki page as you go, so we can all benefit from that. Start out doing it more "for fun" or "to improve Lubuntu". There is no need to wait until it is all "perfect" and ready to be sold or used in a consulting business to clearly document (a) what you are trying to do, and (b) the pieces of those goals you have already accomplished and (c) exactly how you got there. > But let me be clear, I want to understand, I'm not looking for a > simple solution offered by others. OK. man lxsession (oops there isn't one, lxsession --help !), man lxpanel, man Xsession, man Xsession.options, man dbus-launch, read /usr/bin/startlubuntu in detail, read the scripts under /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ and the files under /etc/xdg/ etc. etc. Read the relevant specs at http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/ . The information you need is already right there on your machine, for the most part. > When I'll have achieved a good result)I'll happily share with you, > others people (is there a group involved? ) and I create a Wiki, > trust me. Just start a wiki page on wiki.ubuntu.com now, and post to lubuntu-users about it occasionally. No need to wait for "a good result". My script already creates a working additional session type. Add enhancements to it, and you'll end up with a good way to repeatable perform the customizations you think are valuable to others. Make your improved script(s) available so others can use them and modify them too. For example, I *think* lxpanel might default to looking for system-wide profiles under /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/* but I am not sure... if you can make that work, then there is no need for the per user creation of lxpanel configuration files and directories under ~/.config/lxpanel that my script currently does. It's just a quick hack to demonstrate that setting up a new session type is not *that* complex. There are others on the lubuntu-users mailing list who have suggested that making "prettier" desktops for Lubuntu would attract more users. I am trying to remember who I talked to about this recently, and failing! It's not an area of particular interest to me -- if it works, then I don't really care whether the panel is at the top or bottom, or what exact shade of grey or blue things are, etc. etc. Most of the time, my desktops are covered by shell windows, Emacs windows, or web browser windows anyway! But you are not alone in having an interest in doing this kind of thing. Unfortunately, my sense is that so far what usually happens is that someone creates a pretty desktop that they like, shows it off to their friends, who are impressed... and that's about as far as it goes. The lessons learned, and the scripts used to set up the customizations in a reliable and repeatble way, are not documented or made public, so there is little long term value to the Lubuntu community as a whole. Later someone else comes along, and does the same thing, learning the same kinds of lessons all over again. I think that is a waste. Maybe this time it can be different? Maybe you can aim to have some of your work packaged in a new lubuntu-settings-extras .deb in time for Lubuntu 14.04 ? Jonathan -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms Post to : lubuntu-comms@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
