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Am 24.06.2013 um 00:37 schrieb "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjja...@gmail.com>:

> Hi again,
> 
> I have not read that on the news/post/link. I did not understand your first 
> email, hence my emails. I'm sorry but all in all, this discussion was helpful 
> so at least, everyone know what we are up to :)
> 
> Enough to remain silent about Start Ubuntu Project as a project that must be 
> a Priority and it is for me, to be honest.
> 
> Having the said, I do agree that it is better for them to wait for 14.04.
> 
> And, I do suggest we discuss more in depth about Start Ubuntu.
> 
> I have also read the other day but forgot to sent it. The Spanish Gov is also 
> willing to use Linux and save about 20 Millions Euro.
> 
> So, my friends, the coming days will be really full of fun and hard work. 
> Let's do it.
> 
> Sorry again Phill. I guess I was so excited. You know me.
> 
> P.S.
> Wait, why should we wait for the Germany Gov to do that move? why not we do 
> it???? 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Phill Whiteside <phi...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> Ali,
>> 
>> they plan to release the CD's in March, doing so means they will be using 
>> 13.10. In April (one month later) 14.04 LTS is released and any users of 
>> 13.10 will be prompted to upgrade. Those who choose not to will have support 
>> dropped in July. As I have stated a couple of times, it seems pointless to 
>> create lots of CD's which have a shelf life of a few months and that they 
>> should be contacted and this matter explained to them. If they use the 
>> 14.04, it can be billed fully as an LTS with updates arriving throughout 
>> it's life time. 
>> 
>> I hope I have made myself clearer to you.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Phill.
>> 
>> 
>> On 23 June 2013 23:21, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Phill,
>>> 
>>> Problem is, we are talking apples and oranges here.
>>> I have never stated that Lubuntu 13.10 will be 'the replacement' for 
>>> Windows XP :)
>>> I have stated, I'm stating, and will state that Lubuntu, is the best 
>>> replacement for Windows XP.
>>> 
>>> Please, if that is not clear, by all means, I'm more than glad to repeat 
>>> myself :D
>>> 
>>> So, our argument/discussion/etc is invalid.
>>> 
>>> By the way, 13.10 will be released in October. 14.04 LTS will be released 
>>> in April. That is 6 months, not 9 :)
>>> So, if say they will start using Lubuntu 13.10 by next October, by next 
>>> April, they will have an LTS version :)
>>> 
>>> Again, the point is, they will start using Linux. 
>>> It happened that Linux System is Lubuntu.
>>> 
>>> Are you telling me that the one and only version of Lubuntu that will be 
>>> used is 13.10? I guess not.
>>> 
>>> I do hope now I have made myself clear enough!
>>> 
>>> Thanks :)
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Phill Whiteside <phi...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>> Yes, 
>>>> 
>>>> I have a Q.... by all means promote lubuntu as an XP replacement... but 
>>>> the release of such a replacement will be the 14.04 LTS. As desktop 
>>>> releases only have 9 months support, are you seriously going to argue that 
>>>> 13.10 is a replacement and in 9 months time all support will be dropped? 
>>>> If they go for a March launch, then the CD's will be unsupported by July 
>>>> 2014.....
>>>> 
>>>> I think that would be a VERY bad move.
>>>> 
>>>> Phill.
>>>> 
>>>> On 23 June 2013 22:44, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Phill,
>>>>> 
>>>>> With all due respect to your personal opinion, I do disagree with you :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have created this project months ago. I was NOT planning to hold 
>>>>> anything back. As a respect to the decision to wait, that was because 
>>>>> this project was born in March and we had to release 13.04. Now, 13.04 
>>>>> has been released, 13.10 is under development, I simply 'fail' to see any 
>>>>> good point to wait.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Germany Government has made that move. This is a HUGE move. We should 
>>>>> carry on and be happy, not to hold or wait, PLEASE!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm saying it here now, publicly, that I can simply stop ALL my 
>>>>> activities on Lubuntu Community and JUST focus on Start Ubuntu.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This Project must NEVER wait. You may think we do have time. Sorry, this 
>>>>> is wrong. We do not have time. Time flies and runs so fast. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> IMHO, let them start using any version of Lubuntu. Let them get used to 
>>>>> it. Let them explore it. Let them start asking Qs. ALL that time, from 
>>>>> now to 14.04, we will have so many feedback, notes, suggestions, etc. 
>>>>> This will no question will HELP us to make a rock solid system.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been asked to change the name of Start Lubuntu to Start Ubuntu. I've 
>>>>> been told to wait until 13.10. ALL done.
>>>>> Now, I'm sorry, I'm not planning to remain silent after this huge step 
>>>>> from the Germany Government.
>>>>> 
>>>>> @Everyone
>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please read and contact me if you have any Q.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let's do it, please! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Phill Whiteside <phi...@ubuntu.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> This is pretty awesome news for lubuntu!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> @ Ali and others who I asked to hold back on our shouting out that 
>>>>>> lubuntu should wait for 13.10, I apologise! Sadly it is planned from 
>>>>>> March, I do think we should get in touch with them and ask that it 
>>>>>> coincide with our 1st LTS which is April.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> @ Jono, can you, via Canonical, alert them to the fact it would be 
>>>>>> better to wait for our 1st LTS in April 2014?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Phill.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: René Lara <notification+zj4ozoaz=9...@facebookmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: 23 June 2013 22:00
>>>>>> Subject: [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:
>>>>>> To: Lubuntu Official <lubuntu.offic...@groups.facebook.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> René Lara posted in Lubuntu Official
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> René Lara         23 June 22:00
>>>>>> Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Congratulations buddies, you have made an excellent job at Lubuntu and 
>>>>>> there it is, you're being considered one of the best Linux distros 
>>>>>> today, and now Munich has chosen your distro to give it to their people.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ...And I think I will try Lubuntu 13.04 or maybe the beta for 13.10, 
>>>>>> because I have a free 20 Gb Partition ;) :D
>>>>>>  German City Hopes to Wean Citizens Off Windows XP With Free Linux CDs - 
>>>>>> OMG! Ubuntu!
>>>>>> www.omgubuntu.co.uk
>>>>>> Munich City Council plan to distribute free Linux CDs to citizens as a 
>>>>>> 'replacement for Windows XP' ...
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> amjjawad
>>>>> Start Ubuntu
>>>>> My Own Business
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> amjjawad
>>> Start Ubuntu
>>> My Own Business
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
> 
> 
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> Best Regards,
> amjjawad
> Start Ubuntu
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