Hi everybody,
Now Iberê has verified that fake-PAE works with a Celeron M 1.2 GHz.
Lubuntu 13.04 is installed and the data has been shared to make the span
of Pentium M and Celeron M CPUs wider.
-o-
Our test results so far for Pentium M CPUs suitable for fakePAE, 'No PAE
flags but 36 bit physical memory address size':
--- CPU name ---- -- CPUID Output of 'cpuid|grep ^00000001' --
Lowest: Celeron M 1200 Mhz 00000001 00000695 00000812 00000000 a7e9f9bf
Celeron M 1.40 GHz
Pentium M 1.50 GHz 00000001 000006d6 00000816 00000180 afe9f9bf
Pentium M 1600 MHz 00000001 00000695 00000816 00000180 a7e9f9bf
Highest:Pentium M 1.70 GHz 00000001 000006d6 00000816 00000180 afe9f9bf
Best regards
Nio
On 2013-05-26 01:00, Iberê Fernandes wrote:
> Nio,
>
> I've just tested your instructions at
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/grub-n-iso
>
> from items a) to f1), g) and h) and now on the live session cat
> /proc/cpuinfo reports 36 bits physical so I guess my Celeron M 1.2Ghz
> has PAE capability. note that on lubuntu 12.04 it's reporting 32 bits
> physical.
>
> thank you for supporting old computers such as mine!
>
> i'm not installing lubuntu 13.04 because my kid is playing on the laptop
> now, but in the next weekend or so, i will install and report it to all
> of you. anyway, now i'm almost sure it'll work and that laptop will keep
> useful! i'm so happy, thanks to all of you. lot's of kudos!
>
> btw, this is my celeron M:
> http://ark.intel.com/products/27138/Intel-Celeron-M-Processor-310-512K-Cache-1_20-GHz-400-MHz-FSB
>
> thank you again!
> Iberê
>
>
> 2013/5/11 Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>>
>
> Hi Iberê,
>
> Your Celeron M 1.2 GHz is maybe a couple of years older than my Pentium
> M with 1.7 GHz. It would be very valuable for the project to know, if
> your CPU has the PAE capability, and I think the best way to find out is
> to try. We can only guess from what we find on the internet ;-)
>
> Have you looked at
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
>
> yet? It is still in 'beta state', the image and instruction (README)
> files reside on my google drive page. Please look at it in more detail!
>
> You need not touch your working Lubuntu 12.04. Make an install USB
> pendrive with 'grub-n-iso' (or a portable 'installed system' if you have
> a 16 GB pendrive). Just make sure you are cloning the image to the USB
> pendrive, and not to the internal HDD.
>
> I would be very happy if you can try it and report the result.
>
> When I run Lubuntu 12.04 with a non-pae kernel
>
> cat /proc/cpuinfo
>
> reports 32 bits for my Pentium M,
>
> but when I run Lubuntu 13.04, it reports 36 bits physical address size.
>
> So you need the pae kernel running to get 36 bits. If you don't get 36
> bits, your celeron M 1.2 GHz has no PAE capability. At least this is
> what I understand.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
>
> On 2013-05-11 03:12, Iberê Fernandes wrote:
> > question: i have a celeron M 1.2 GHz (yes, i know it's almost 10 years
> > old) with no pae and physical address size reports 32 bits.
> >
> > will any of the methods work for me before i start poking around my
> > perfect working Lubuntu 12.04?
> >
> > tks!
> > iberê
> >
> >
> > 2013/5/10 Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com> <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>>>
> >
> > Getting ready for easier conversion from Windows XP:
> >
> > Now there are instructions how to make an install USB drive
> > *from Windows with graphical user interface tools* in
> >
> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
> >
> > Best regards
> > Nio
> >
> > On 2013-05-06 10:44, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> > > Hello all Lubuntu lovers,
> > >
> > > Now there are three methods to make the new Ubuntu family
> 32-bit pae
> > > kernels available for Pentium M, that have pae capability,
> but do not
> > > show the pae flag.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. Mörgæs's method to start from the Ubuntu 12.04 non-pae
> mini-iso
> > file
> > >
> > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
> > >
> > > A variant of this method is that people who have
> > > - more or less personalized versions of Lubuntu 12.04
> running, or
> > > - already have a Lubuntu 12.04 iso file and a slow internet
> connection
> > > use fake-pae to upgrade to 12.10 and/or 13.04.
> > >
> > >
> > > *. Lubuntu-13.04-fake-PAE
> > >
> > > The idea is to make it easier for people who want to go directly
> > into a
> > > new version of Lubuntu. This is a good alternative for a
> fresh install
> > > (instead of downloading 12.04 and upgrading twice to newer
> releases).
> > >
> > > Right now the software (images to download and README files)
> > resides on
> > > my google drive, but once it is tested by a few more people,
> Phill
> > > Whiteside can host it on his web-site. Only two persons have
> tested it
> > > (one person except myself), and I ask you for help.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B46yhFQuJvfPRXRvSmJ6b0xoNE0&usp=sharing
> > >
> > > A. Please test if the installation process works, and that
> the README
> > > texts work, even if you have no laptop with Pentium M. I
> need feedback
> > > from you to improve the instructions, so that the installation
> > will work
> > > also for people who are not so experienced with terminal window
> > commands.
> > >
> > > B. If you have no time to test an installation, please read
> the README
> > > files at the google drive site, and suggest improvments to
> make it
> > > better! Any suggestions are welcome, general ones that make it
> > easier to
> > > follow, added text, changed text, improved English grammar (I am
> > > Swedish, and there might be some Swenglish phrases, that
> should be
> > > changed). Also tell me which method you prefer 'grub-n-iso' or
> > > 'installed system', and why :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > 2. 'grub-n-iso'
> > >
> > > Advantages:
> > > Similar to normal installation (via 1GB or 2GB USB drive)
> > > No upgrading between versions is necessary
> > > Full flexibility, for example to make a dual boot system
> > >
> > > Disadvantages:
> > > You do not get a complete worḱing operating system directly
> > > You need to install fake-pae using 7bit's ppa after the
> installation
> > > It uses the desktop iso file, while the alternate iso file
> can install
> > > to systems with lower RAM.
> > >
> > > Warning: This Lubuntu Raring 'grub-n-iso’ system is not intended
> > to run
> > > with non-pae CPUs, it is only intended for Pentium M, that
> have pae
> > > capability but no pae flag. I take no responsibility for any
> damage,
> > > that this software can cause.
> > >
> > > Backup all personal data before trying this method.
> > >
> > > Use it only for computers with old Pentium M CPUs without
> the pae flag
> > > (mainly if not only laptops)!
> > >
> > > Check very carefully which drive is the USB drive, to use as the
> > > ‘grub-n-iso’ or ‘grub-n-iso-n-swap’ USB boot drive. Double
> check and
> > > triple check, because dd will overwrite the drive and if you
> write
> > to a
> > > drive with unique data, there is no way to get them back.
> > >
> > > The ‘grub-n-iso’ system should work well with 1 GB RAM or
> more, maybe
> > > with 768 MB. The ‘grub-n-iso-n-swap’ system can install will
> less RAM,
> > > because the swap can relieve some peaks in memory usage. It
> depends on
> > > the computer specs (not only RAM, also graphics chip and other
> > devices,
> > > that use memory) if it will work, but I guess you can to
> install with
> > > 512 GB RAM. My guess is based on tests in VirtualBox. If you
> have less
> > > RAM, I suggest that you use another method, either the
> > > Lubuntu-13.04-fake-PAE install method 'installed system', or the
> > method
> > > by Mörgæs starting with Ubuntu non-pae 12.04 mini.iso,
> fake-pae, and
> > > upgrading to
> > > 12.10 (and 13.04). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
> > >
> > >
> > > 3. Installed system
> > >
> > > Advantages:
> > > No live install CD/DVD/USB drive is used
> > > No upgrading between versions is necessary
> > > You get a complete worḱing operating system directly
> > >
> > > Disadvantages:
> > > It is a different way to install a system.
> > > It installs into 16 GB (the first 16 GB of a drive)
> > > It is easier to use 'grub-n-iso' for a dual boot system
> > >
> > >
> > > This Lubuntu Raring 'installed system' can run with at least
> the later
> > > Pentium M cpus. Right now it is on a USB 3 pendrive, installed
> > from the
> > > Lubuntu Raring desktop iso in a modern computer and tested
> in my IBM
> > > Thinkpad T42 with Pentium M 1,7 GHz. It uses the fake-pae
> method of
> > > 7-bit @ubuntuforums to let the 32-bit pae kernel be updated
> with CPUs
> > > without a pae flag.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if older Pentium M CPUs can run well with it.
> Check, that
> > >
> > > cat /proc/cpuinfo
> > >
> > > reports 36 bit physical address size!
> > >
> > > Warning: This Lubuntu Raring 'installed system' is not
> intended to run
> > > with non-pae CPUs, it is only intended for Pentium M, that
> have pae
> > > capability but no pae flag. I take no responsibility for any
> damage,
> > > that this software can cause.
> > >
> > >
> > > *. Background
> > >
> > > The Pentium M CPUs are a special case. They have pae capability,
> > but do
> > > not announce the pae flag. So they fall between the chairs.
> With the
> > > fake-pae trick, introduced by 7bit @ ubuntuforums, it is
> possible to
> > > upgrade. There are many high-quality professional laptops
> around with
> > > Pentium M processors.
> > >
> > > My Raring installation on a USB 3 pendrive runs beautifully
> on my old
> > > Thinkpad with Pentium M without the pae flag. So the
> fake-pae flag
> > helps
> > > it sit on the pae chair.
> > >
> > > This is what I am willing to offer to other Pentium M owners.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Nio alias sudodus
> > >
> >
> >
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> > iberê
>
>
>
>
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> iberê
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