On 7/4/23 14:39, Roxana Nicolescu wrote:
Hi,

Thanks a lot for your feedback.

I realize I did not say the reason why I did not go for LTTNG_UBUNTU_KERNEL_RANGE. We deliver a bunch of different
derivatives (inherited from the main kernel), each with its own
version and it's impossible to use LTTNG_UBUNTU_KERNEL_RANGE alone. Derivatives in the same cycle don't have the same version number, so
I cannot rely on the version alone to determine when a change has
happened. For example these are some kernels we released last cycle: - linux (main kernel): 5.19.0-46 - linux-kvm: 5.19.0-1026 -
linux-lowlatency: 5.19.0-1028 As you can see, linux-kvm and
linux-lowlatency versions are not the same, and linux-lowlatency from
2 months ago version version number coincides with linux-kvm from
now, but they don't match the same base. I hope that explains it.

Initially I thought about exposing the version of the main kernel in
the kernel headers that can be later used in the module, but then I
came across openvswitch and that's how I came up with the idea of an
initial configure step.

But I totally understand if you think this is not worth it.

LTTng modules use the UTS_UBUNTU_RELEASE_ABI from the Ubuntu generated/utsrelease.h kernel headers to detect tracepoint instrumentation changes. I don't understand why many kernel flavors would have the same ABI number with different ABI semantics, but I guess that's just how things are now.

One way to solve this would be to detect the "-lowlatency" and "-kvm" suffixes in the string within generated/utsrelease.h UTS_RELEASE, e.g.:

#define UTS_RELEASE "5.15.0-76-lowlatency"

This could be done by LTTng modules by implementing a script similar to what we do for debian, fedora, rhel, and sle (see scripts/ in lttng-modules).

Then we could have:

* LTTNG_UBUNTU_KERNEL_RANGE for kernels where all flavors have the same
  kernel ABI.

* LTTNG_UBUNTU_GENERIC_KERNEL_RANGE for generic kernels only, for
  situations where the kernel ABI differ between flavors,

* LTTNG_UBUNTU_LOWLATENCY_KERNEL_RANGE for lowlatency kernels only, for
  situations where the kernel ABI differ between flavors,

* LTTNG_UBUNTU_KVM_KERNEL_RANGE for kvm kernels only, for situations
  where the kernel ABI differ between flavors.

It would all have been simpler if the UTS_UBUNTU_RELEASE_ABI would actually have been a versioned kernel ABI without different semantics across kernel flavors, but considering the current situation we will need to deal with this with scripts as we have done for other distributions.

Thanks,

Mathieu


All the best, Roxana

On 04/07/2023 20:07, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
On 7/4/23 11:35, Michael Jeanson via lttng-dev wrote:
On 2023-07-03 14:28, Roxana Nicolescu via lttng-dev wrote:
This script described the changes in the linux kernel interface
that affect compatibility with lttng-modules.

It is introduced for a specific usecase where commit d87a7b4c77a9: "jbd2: use the correct print format" broke the interface between the kernel and lttng-module. 3 variables changed their type to tid_t (transaction, head and tid) in
multiple function declarations. The lttng module was updated
properly to ensure backwards compatibility by using the version
of the kernel. But this change took into account only long term
supported versions. As an example, ubuntu 5.19 kernels picked
the linux kernel change from 5.15 without actually changing the
linux kernel upstream version. This means the current tooling
does not allow to fix the module for newer ubuntu 5.19
kernels.

This script is supposed to solve the problem mentioned above,
but to also make this change easier to integrate. We check the
linux kernel header (include/trace/events/jbd2.h) if the types
of tid, transaction and head variable have changed to tid_t
and define these 3 variables in 'include/generated/config.h': TID_IS_TID_T 1 TRANSACTION_IS_TID_T 1 HEAD_IS_TID_T 1

In 'include/instrumentation/events/jbd2.h' we then check these
to define the proper type of transaction, head and tid
variables that will be later used in the function declarations
that need them.

This change is meant to remove the dependency on linux kernel
version and the outcome is a bit cleaner that before. As with
the previous implementation, this may need changes in the future if the kernel interface changes again.

Note: This is a proposal for a simpler way of integrating linux
kernel changes in lttng-modules. The implementation is very
simple due to the fact that tid_t was introduced everywhere in
one commit in include/trace/events/jbd2.h. I would like to get
your opinion on this approach. If needed, it can be improved.

Roxana Nicolescu (1): Introduce configure script to describe
changes in linux kernel interface

README.md                             |   3 +- configure
| 36 +++++++++ include/instrumentation/events/jbd2.h | 110 ++++++-------------------- 3 files changed, 61 insertions(+),
88 deletions(-) create mode 100755 configure


Hi Roxana,

While I can see advantages to a configure script approach to
detect kernel source changes I don't think it's worth the added
complexity on top of our current kernel version range system.

We already have an Ubuntu specific kernel range macro that supplements the upstream version with Ubuntu's kernel ABI
number:

LTTNG_UBUNTU_KERNEL_RANGE(5,19,17,X, 6,0,0,0)

I'll let Mathieu make the final call but I think that would be
the preferred approach.

Indeed, many of the kernel tracepoint code changes we had to deal
with in the past 10 years would not be easy to track with configure
 scripts, so we would end up with not just one, but with a
combination of two different mechanisms to adapt to kernel code
changes.

In order to keep things maintainable long-term, I prefer that we
stay with the version-based approach as recommended by Michael.

Thanks,

Mathieu

Regards,

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