<cb> inline.

From: Christian Hopps <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2025 at 12:49 AM
To: Tony Li <[email protected]>
Cc: Robert Raszuk <[email protected]>, Acee Lindem <[email protected]>, 
[email protected] <[email protected]>, LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS 
MURILLO <[email protected]>, Raul Arco (Nokia) 
<[email protected]>, Ron Bonica <[email protected]>, lsr <[email protected]>
Subject: [Lsr] Re: New Version Notification for 
draft-many-lsr-power-group-00.txt
Tony Li <[email protected]> writes:

> Hi Chris,
>
>>> Shutting down a link does not require centralized management action.  It is 
>>> quite sufficient to coordinate it between the routers on the ends of the 
>>> link.
>>>
>>> Note that one can also conceive of a situation where there is a unilateral, 
>>> ungraceful shutdown too.  That requires zero coordination.
>>
>> I'm curious about these new power-sleep modes.
>>
>> - Are these offered for single laser or single links or is it more of using 
>> only a few links in a bundle of links (LAG)?
>
>
> Power sleep applies to both single lasers or LAGs.
>
>
>> - If single laser or single link, what's might a transition time for an
>> interface to go from power-sleep to fully-functional/bandwidth-capable look
>> like -- i.e., is it faster than going from shut to no shut on a typical 
>> laser?
>
>
> ?  These are typical lasers. No sharks are involved.

Well you never know if some new transceiver HW had been created capable of some 
fanciness, but apparently no -- no sharks. :)

<cb> Not yet!

--cb


Thanks,
Chris.

>
> Power-sleep is a software state to describe an interface that is intentionally
> shut off and can be reactivated when demand arises. This is intentionally 
> called
> out to separate it from administratively down or failed.
>
>
>> - What might typical power savings (%) look like when we put an interface 
>> into power sleep mode?
>
>
> 100% of laser power. Possibly additional savings due to associated other
> circuitry (MACsec, gearboxes, PHY, etc.). Power for all of these should be
> included in the interface or parent power groups as appropriate.
>
>
>> - What does power sleep bandwidth look like (maybe % wise)?
>
>
> 0% bandwidth on single lasers.  On a LAG, the sleeping bandwidth is described 
> in section 7.2.3.
>
> T

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