Hi, Peter:

I noticed the updated draft includes the new contributors to respect their 
previous efforts, this should be encouraged within IETF.

But, I must point out that, the direction that Reusing the LSInfinity to 
advertise the unreachable information should be discarded.

The LSInfinity feature that is defined in RFC 2328 is FLAWED, we should try to 
fix it, not exploit it again. 

Let's give you the simple example, that described in "OSPF Inter-Area Routing" 
[1]
This is one 20 years ago article, it states clearly that when ABR do the 
summary action, it will add the cost of the prefix itself and the cost of the 
path between the prefix originator and the ABR together, as the newly cost of 
the summary LSA for the prefix:
In the example, the original cost of 4.0.0.0/8 is 10, the link cost between 
Router 1.1.1.1 and Router 2.2.2.2 is 64, the ABR(router 2.2.2.2) will advertise 
the summary LSA for 4.0.0.0/8 to Area 1, with the cost set to 10+64=74 (please 
see the output of "r2.2.2.2#show ip ospf database summary 4.0.0.0")

Then coming the question(let's take the same example):
If the cost of prefix 4.0.0.0/8 is set to 0xffffff-0x40(64), on ABR(router 
2.2.2.2), the cost of summary LSA for prefix 4.0.0.0/8 will reach 0xfffff.
If the ABR(router 2.2.2.2) follow the guideline of RFC 2328, the prefix 
4.0.0.0/8 will be unreachable, and will be not advertised to area 1, router in 
area 1 can't reach the 4.0.0.0/8.
But actually, 4.0.0.0/8 is reachable via the ABR(router 2.2.2.2).

If we consider there may be several hops between the prefix originator and the 
ABR, then the cost of the prefix can't exceed 【0xffffff-(several 
hops)*(possible link metric)】, which will be varied with different network 
topology, and can't be considered as one universal value, even a definite range.

Then, such flaw in OSPF 2328, and also the similar mechanism in RFC 
5305/RFC5308 for IS-IS should be fixed.

The reason that there is no emerged network outrage in these years is that the 
operator configure seldom the cost of the prefix directly.
But if we expand the LSInfinity feature as described in this WG document, more 
chaos, and network outrages will be emerged.

Let's stop forwarding to this direction.

[1]: 
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/open-shortest-path-first-ospf/47864-ospfdb5.html


Best Regards

Aijun Wang
China Telecom


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主题: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-05.txt

Internet-Draft draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-05.txt is now 
available. It is a work item of the Link State Routing (LSR) WG of the IETF.

   Title:   IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement
   Authors: Peter Psenak
            Clarence Filsfils
            Daniel Voyer
            Shraddha Hegde
            Gyan Mishra
   Name:    draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-05.txt
   Pages:   15
   Dates:   2025-05-08

Abstract:

   In the presence of summarization, there is a need to signal loss of
   reachability to an individual prefix covered by the summary.  This
   enables fast convergence by steering traffic away from the node which
   owns the prefix and is no longer reachable.

   This document describes how to use the existing protocol mechanisms
   in IS-IS and OSPF, together with the two new flags, to advertise such
   prefix reachability loss.

The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce/

There is also an HTMLized version available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-05

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-05

Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts


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