< speaking as a co-author of this document >

Hi Med,

Please check inline below for response with KT


On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 7:05 PM <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com> wrote:

> Hi Ran,
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> Please see comments prefixes with *[Med] *inline.
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> Striped parts that I think are resolved. Thank you.
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> Cheers,
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> Med
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> *De :* chen....@zte.com.cn <chen....@zte.com.cn>
> *Envoyé :* mardi 1 avril 2025 12:05
> *À :* BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>
> *Cc :* acee.i...@gmail.com; i...@ietf.org;
> draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-extended-fl...@ietf.org; lsr-cha...@ietf.org;
> lsr@ietf.org
> *Objet :* Re: [Lsr] Re: Mohamed Boucadair's Yes on
> draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-extended-flags-06: (with COMMENT)
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> Hi Med,
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> Sorry for late reply, please see inline...
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> Best Regards,
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> Ran
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> Original
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> *From: *mohamed.boucad...@orange.com <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>
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> *To: *陈然00080434;acee.i...@gmail.com <acee.i...@gmail.com>;
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> *Cc: *i...@ietf.org <i...@ietf.org>;
> draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-extended-fl...@ietf.org <
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> lsr-cha...@ietf.org>;lsr@ietf.org <lsr@ietf.org>;
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> *Date: *2025年03月28日 00:55
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> *Subject: RE: [Lsr] Re: Mohamed Boucadair's Yes on
> draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-extended-flags-06: (with COMMENT)*
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> Hi Ran,
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> Thank you for the follow-up.
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> Please see inline.
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> Cheers,
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> Med
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> *De :* chen....@zte.com.cn <chen....@zte.com.cn>
> *Envoyé :* jeudi 27 mars 2025 09:07
> *À :* acee.i...@gmail.com; BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <
> mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>
> *Cc :* i...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-extended-fl...@ietf.org;
> lsr-cha...@ietf.org; lsr@ietf.org
> *Objet :* Re: [Lsr] Re: Mohamed Boucadair's Yes on
> draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-extended-flags-06: (with COMMENT)
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> Hi Med,
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> Thank you for your review and support of this work. We appreciate your
> thoughtful comments and suggestions.
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> We would also like to thank Acee for his valuable input. Please see
> inline...
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> Original
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> *From: *AceeLindem <acee.i...@gmail.com>
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> *To: *Mohamed Boucadair <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>;
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> *Cc: *The IESG <i...@ietf.org>;
> draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-extended-fl...@ietf.org <
> draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-extended-fl...@ietf.org>;lsr-cha...@ietf.org <
> lsr-cha...@ietf.org>;lsr <lsr@ietf.org>;
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> *Date: *2025年03月26日 08:57
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> *Subject: [Lsr] Re: Mohamed Boucadair's Yes on
> draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-extended-flags-06: (with COMMENT)*
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> Speaking as document shepherd:
>
> Hi Med,
>
> See inline.
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> > On Mar 25, 2025, at 4:28 AM, Mohamed Boucadair via Datatracker <
> nore...@ietf.org> wrote:
> >
> > Mohamed Boucadair has entered the following ballot position for
> > draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-extended-flags-06: Yes
> >
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> *..*..
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>  > ## Not sure if this is assumed, but is it allowed that a group of bits 
> (e.g., 2
> > bits) may be allocated for one single purpose?
> The current description seems to
> > assume that flags will be allocated individually.
>
> This is not limited by the specification so if one were to define a Trid 
> (i.e., 3 states), it could take 2 bits.
>
> However, the draft that defines this should deal with that. It need not be 
> here.
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> *[Med] I would add a mention about this.*
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> *Ran1 : The flags defined in this draft may use either a single bit or
> multiple bits to represent a state, as determined by the specific
> requirements of the draft defining them. If needed, we can add a sentence
> to explicitly state this. Please let us know if this addresses your
> concern.*
>
>
>
> *[Med] Thanks for adding this.*
>
>
>
> >
>
> > ## Should we have configuration parameters to control the use of the flags
> > (e.g., rfc8362#appendix-A)?
>
> No. Configuration will be described in the future documents that define the 
> bits.
>
>
> *[Med] I was not referring to the individual flags, but to the function
> introduced in this spec. Please refer to the guidance at:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5706#section-3.4
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5706#section-3.4> *
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> *Ran1 : By default, this Sub-TLV is not sent unless the corresponding bit
> needs to be transmitted. The receiver can handle it based on its own
> capabilities. This draft does not specifically require the addition of a
> control mechanism.*
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> *[Med] The case I have in mind is when upgrading the network with a mix of
> capable and non-capable routers. I’d like to control when the extended
> flags can be used, hence the control knob raised in my comment.*
>

KT> The extended flags sub-TLV is an encoding and not a functionality.
Hence, does not require a control knob - especially given that the protocol
has built-in mechanism to ignore (parse over) unknown/unrecognized
encodings. The control knobs may come into play for specific bits that
future documents may introduce.


>
> > # Section 3: MUST seems redundant with “Unrecognized TLVs and sub-TLVs are
>
> > ignored” stated in rfc8362#section-6
>
> Ran:Thank you for your feedback. We discussed this sentence previously
> with Acee (one of the authors of RFC8362), Ketan, Gunter, and other
> authors, and reached a consensus on the approach.
>
> *[Med] Aaah, still the MUST is redundant with 8362, which governs this
> extension. You can simple update the text and say “per Section 6 of
> [RFC8362], ….” *
>
> *Ran1:Well,that was discussed before :). For OSPFv3 extended LSAs, this
> has been specified in the base specification here
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8362#section-6.3
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8362#section-6.3> while for
> OSPFv2 it was specified in
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3630#section-2.3.2
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3630#section-2.3.2> in the
> context of TE Opaque LSAs that has been inherited/followed by others
> including the RFC7684.  Thanks!*
>
> *[Med] I still don’t follow the rationale here. We are not defining a new
> behavior as far as I know.*
>

KT> Agree, it is not a new behavior. Perhaps

An implementation that does not recognize the OSPFv2/OSPFv3 Prefix
Attribute Flags Sub-TLV would ignore the Sub-TLV as per normal TLV
processing operations (refer section 6.3 of [RFC3630] and section 2.3.2 of
[RFC8362]).

Thanks,
Ketan


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