Ketan –

Thanx for the support.
Responses inline.

From: Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2024 9:56 AM
To: Yingzhen Qu <[email protected]>
Cc: lsr <[email protected]>; lsr-chairs <[email protected]>
Subject: [Lsr] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 
7/15/2024)

Hi All,

I thank the authors for the work on this draft and support its publication. 
This work was very much needed for the enablement of new feature sets in ISIS 
networks and the specification will aid interoperability.

My only "grudge" is something that I have brought up previously on this draft 
[1] and perhaps there may still be some interest in the WG/authors to take care 
of them?

1) Mandate that the non-key part is identical in all the parts and if not 
recommend that the value in the first part is taken. Or, say something about 
handling this condition than saying "error and out of scope".

[LES:] The authors discussed this aspect.
What we decided was that the scope of this draft was to clearly define the 
generic aspects of multi-tlv – not to discuss the peculiarities of any specific 
codepoint.
With that in mind, Section 4 – and specifically the examples provided – is 
meant only to illustrate what a “key” is.
There is considerably more that could be said about each specific codepoint – 
but we believe that is out of scope for this document.


2) Since the early versions of the draft, a lot of effort has been put on 
cataloguing TLV/sub-TLVs and their applicability for MP. From there, it is only 
one more step to actually specify the "key" and "non-key" parts of TLVs (where 
this is not done already) in an appendix section. This is important for 
interoperability. The draft today covers two of the most prominent TLVs but 
does not cover the others.

[LES:] Again, the intent of this document is to clearly describe the generic 
Multi-TLV mechanism – not to discuss the specifics of each codepoint. To do so 
would expand the scope of the document beyond any reasonable boundaries.
For example, in the case of Neighbor TLVs (such as TLV 22), there are a wide 
variety of implementation strategies.
Some implementations send only LinkIDs all the time.
Some implementations send endpoint addresses (when available) and not Link IDs.
Some implementations send endpoint addresses and Link IDs.
All of these options are valid – but may impact interoperability depending on 
the “generosity” of the receivers.
And some commonality is required – independent of Multi-TLV – in order for 
two-way connectivity check to work correctly.

It is not in the scope of this document to include such a discussion – and the 
use of Multi-TLV does not introduce new issues in this regard.
This is why we restricted ourselves to only discussing “what a key is” in the 
examples.
The discussion – even for the two examples - is not exhaustive and is not meant 
to be.

If there is a significant interoperability issue with a particular codepoint, 
some other document will have to be written/updated to address that.

   Les

That said, I won't hold this document if I am in the rough on this.

Thanks,
Ketan

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/qQkeAHnw2qjrGoySbES4EVafgY4/


On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 11:39 AM Yingzhen Qu 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi,



This email begins a 2 week WG Last Call for the following draft: 
draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv-01 - Multi-part TLVs in 
IS-IS<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv/>



Please review the document and indicate your support or objections by July 
15th, 2024.

Authors,



Please indicate to the list, your knowledge of any IPR related to this work.



Thanks,

Yingzhen
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