Hi John, 

I now recall this discussion. In the context of OSPFv3, an OSPFv3 adjacency 
over a tunnel should NOT be misconstrued as an OSPFv3 virtual link and the 
Errata is invalid. 

Thanks,
Acee

> On Jan 11, 2024, at 14:30, John Scudder <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Quickly reversing myself, and to quote my other reply just now: "Actually, 
> upon reviewing this one, I'm leaning back toward simply rejecting both this 
> erratum and erratum 7644. As we discussed earlier in the thread on this one, 
> the best fix (assuming the working group agrees is a fix is merited, of 
> course) is a draft to update or replace the base spec.”
> 
> In short, “never mind!”
> 
> —John
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2024, at 2:24 PM, John Scudder <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Acee, WG,
>> 
>> I'm convinced this doesn't meet the criteria to be verified as a technical 
>> erratum. I am considering verifying it as "Hold for Document Update”, 
>> though. The definition for HFDU is "The erratum is not a necessary update to 
>> the RFC. However, any future update of the document might consider this 
>> erratum, and determine whether it is correct and merits including in the 
>> update.” [1]
>> 
>> Please let me know soon if you have any concerns about that disposition.
>> 
>> --John
>> 
>> [1] https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/processing-rfc-errata/
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 6:25 PM, Acee Lindem <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Given that the context of the “Interface MTU” is specifically the 
>>> “interface MTU” field in OSPFv3 Database Description packets and OSPF 
>>> virtual links (RFC 2328), the additions recommended in this Errata are 
>>> unnecessary. The Errata should be rejected.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Acee
>>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 15:58, RFC Errata System <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5838,
>>>> "Support of Address Families in OSPFv3".
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> You may review the report below and at:
>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid7644__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!EqM7dBCk2SJzfxt702pp2Pbbk_Bes0OWPmR7eRHvIT3bmb7J2x7frRsHKbUzctMtiDBrCxmW7pFbpMU$
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> Type: Technical
>>>> Reported by: Owen DeLong <[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>> Section: 2.7
>>>> 
>>>> Original Text
>>>> -------------
>>>> Interface MTU
>>>>   The size in octets of the largest address family specific datagram
>>>>   that can be sent on the associated interface without
>>>>   fragmentation.  The MTUs of common Internet link types can be
>>>>   found in Table 7-1 of [MTUDISC].  The Interface MTU SHOULD be set
>>>>   to 0 in Database Description packets sent over virtual links.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Corrected Text
>>>> --------------
>>>> Interface MTU
>>>>   The size in octets of the largest address family specific datagram
>>>>   that can be sent on the associated interface without
>>>>   fragmentation.  The MTUs of common Internet link types can be
>>>>   found in Table 7-1 of [MTUDISC].  The Interface MTU SHOULD be set
>>>>   to 0 in Database Description packets sent over (OSPF3) virtual links.
>>>>   This recommendation MUST NOT be applied to tunnel and other virtual
>>>>   or software interfaces which carry traffic other than OSPF protocol 
>>>> packets.
>>>> 
>>>> Notes
>>>> -----
>>>> Currently, the language is ambiguous and at least one vendor has 
>>>> implemented OSPF3 sending an MTU of zero on GRE interfaces (and possibly 
>>>> others such as IPIP, IPSEC, etc., as I have not tested these). I believe 
>>>> that the intent of the RFC is to refer strictly to OSPF virtual-links 
>>>> which carry only OSPF protocol data and therefore have no meaningful MTU. 
>>>> When this is mistakenly applied to other forms of "virtual" interfaces 
>>>> such as tunnels, the results can be quite harmful.
>>>> 
>>>> As such, I think that clarification is in order, since the vendor in 
>>>> question is unrepentant and claims their current implementation to be 
>>>> compliant with the RFC.
>>>> 
>>>> Instructions:
>>>> -------------
>>>> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please
>>>> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
>>>> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party
>>>> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> RFC5838 (draft-ietf-ospf-af-alt-10)
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> Title               : Support of Address Families in OSPFv3
>>>> Publication Date    : April 2010
>>>> Author(s)           : A. Lindem, Ed., S. Mirtorabi, A. Roy, M. Barnes, R. 
>>>> Aggarwal
>>>> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
>>>> Source              : Open Shortest Path First IGP
>>>> Area                : Routing
>>>> Stream              : IETF
>>>> Verifying Party     : IESG
>>>> 
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