From: Acee Lindem <[email protected]>
Sent: 18 December 2023 13:14
To: tom petch
Cc: [email protected]; Routing Directorate; 
[email protected]; Lsr
Subject: Re: [Lsr] RtgDir Last Call Review: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang

Tom,


On Dec 18, 2023, at 07:47, tom petch <[email protected]> wrote:

I have yet to catch up with -24 but still on -23,  Ithink that you should 
explain where the OSPFv3 YANG augments came from with a Informative Refeerence 
to draft-acee-lsr-ospfv3-sr-yang.  It has taken me since last Thursday to work 
it out:-(.  Unadopted individual drafts do not rate highly in the datatracker.

This draft includes both the SR MPLS augmentations for OSPFv2 and OSPFv3. 
draft-acee-lsr-ospfv3-sr-yang is not obsolete. They were separate drafts at one 
time since the latter was dependent on the OSPFv3 Extended LSA YANG model which 
some day will be reviewed out AD and progressed.

<tp>
All very true but it is ospf-sr-yang that is now progressing - draft-acee is 
not - and which grew 50% in size when the thirteen augments from draft-acee 
were incorporated so I see that needing a mention in ospf-sr-yang along with an 
Informational Reference.

The nature of the model and the form that that imposes on the augments  makes 
it hard to follow but AFAICT twelve of the augments came across unchanged, one, 
relating to nssa, changed its augment point.  Whether this fixed a fault, 
introduced a fault or ... I cannot tell.

It stills needs a mention IMHO 

I am aware of and have reviewed extended-lsa-yang

Tom Petch


<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang/>
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YANG Model for OSPFv3 Extended 
LSAs<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang/>
datatracker.ietf.org<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang/>



The fact that is was never adopted may have implications, such as IPR and the 
like, I do not know, but think it needs stating if only by implication 
(darft-acee..!).

We still have a WG last call to do on this draft so you needn’t worry.



I had noticed and reviewed draft-acee and was waiting for a call for adoption 
to make m comments - e.g. perfix - but the call never came.  I think my 
comments are addressed in -21, when ospfv3 was added, but I will check again in 
-24

This problem is fixed in ietf-ospf-sr-mpls.yang

Thanks,
Acee


Tom Petch

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From: Acee Lindem <[email protected]>
Sent: 12 December 2023 22:25
To: tom petch
Cc: [email protected]; Routing Directorate; 
[email protected]; Lsr
Subject: Re: [Lsr] RtgDir Last Call Review: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang

Hi Tom,

On Dec 11, 2023, at 7:45 AM, tom petch <[email protected]> wrote:

A convenient addressee list so top posting my first thoughts on ospf-sr-yang,  
I hope to find time to have a more detailed look, at least at ospfv2.

I have looked at ospf-sr-yang and have some queries.

Is this all flavours of SR or just some?  Most discussion I see these days 
relates to SRv6 I guess because SR-MPLS is mature in many respects  but think 
that this I-D needs to spell out the scope (like its lsr twin)

This specifies OSPF SR for the MPLS data plane. I’m considering renaming the 
data module to ietf-ospf-sr-mpls.yang as well.


I note the import from sr-mpls and think it a mistake.  The routing RFC says 
that new protocols should have a presence container to switch the protocol on 
and off which sr-mpls does not do but I think that ospf-sr-yang should follow 
the guidelines.

We need to follow the sr-mpls model. We can’t change it in the OSPF SR model.



There are mentions of vendor augmentations but no indications of what they 
might be and, importantly, where they would go.  Other I-D, anticipating 
augments, include containers explicitly for augments so that different vendors 
put the same information in the same place.

I am used to ospfv2 and ospfv3 being derived identities from ospf which makes 
reference to one of the other or both simple, as ospf-yang does.  Why not here?

I’ve updated these to use derived-from() and the current path.



I-D references seems to lack
RFC8102
"draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa -
Latter needs to be Normative since a feature

I hate making the latter normative but I guess it needs to be hopefully the 
authors of this draft will finally bring it to completion.




s.1.1 is ood

This has been removed.



router-id is provided by RFC8294 so it should be imported and not be reinvented 
here

Okay - I have used this definition.



 import ietf-ospfv3-extended-lsa {
lacks a reference clause

      leaf preference {
         type uint8;
         description
           "SRMS preference TLV, value from 0 to 255.";

so what?  what difference soes it make to be 0 or 255 or 42?

The description has been updated to indicate that an SR Mapping Server with a 
higher preference is preferred.

Thanks,
Acee




Tom Petch

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From: Lsr <[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected] 
<[email protected]>
Sent: 05 December 2023 08:15

Hi Acee,

I've looked at the diff: the new version looks good to me. Thanks to the
update.

Regards,

Julien


On 01/12/2023 18:05, Acee Lindem wrote:
Hi Julien,

Thanks much for your review. I’ve incorporated almost all of your comments  in 
the -23 version.

See inline.

On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:03 AM, [email protected] wrote:

Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The 
Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as 
they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special 
request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. 
For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see 
https://wiki.ietf.org/en/group/rtg/RtgDir 
<https://wiki.ietf.org/en/group/rtg/RtgDir>

Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would 
be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call 
comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by 
updating the draft.

Document: draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-22
Reviewer: Julien Meuric
Review Date: 2023-11-29
Intended Status: Standard Tracks


*Summary:*

This document is basically ready for publication but has nits that should be 
considered prior to publication.


*Comments:*

- The very first paragraph of the introduction/overview section summarizes the 
basis of YANG, XML, JSON, data models... I believe we are now far beyond those 
general considerations and we could skip that paragraph.
Removed  - thanks.


- In the grouping "ospfv3-lan-adj-sid-sub-tlvs" (p23), the leaf 
"neighbor-router-id" uses type "dotted-quad". This is consistent with RFC 8666 
which specifies the associated OSPFv3 TLV, but we had a discussion about the 
type for router-id in the TE YANG models. The current resolution on TEAS side 
will be to consider a union of dotted-quad and ipv6-address. I wonder how much 
RTGWG would be ready to consider a superset of the existing OSPFv3 TLVs.
This is the OSPF Router-ID which is different from the OSPF TE Router-ID. The 
two should not be confused as the OSPF Router ID is simply a 32 bit unsigned 
integer that is typically represented in dotted quad format. It only need be 
unique within the OSPF Routing Domain. Conversely, the OSPF TE Router ID is a 
routable IPv4 or IPv6 address.

>From RFC 2328 (which was inherited by RFC 5340):

    Router ID
            A 32-bit number assigned to each router running the OSPF
            protocol. This number uniquely identifies the router within
            an Autonomous System.


*Nits:*

- Multiple times in description: s/SR specific/SR-specific/
Fixed.


- Multiple times in description: s/flag bits list/flag list/
- Multiple times in description: s/flags list/flag list/
I changed these to either just “bits” or “flags” - the fact that it is a YANG 
list need not be included in  the description.


- The description fields use a mix of "Adj sid", "adj sid", "Adj SID"... 
sometimes with hyphens (not to mention the full expansions). A single phrase 
should be chosen and used all along the module.
Changed them all to “Adj-SID” consistent with RFC8665.

- A few description starts with "The..." (e.g., in 
"ospfv2-extended-prefix-range-tlvs" on p 19, or v3 on p 22) while most of them 
don't. For consistency, it should be dropped from every brief description.
I removed “The “ from all the brief descriptions. I left it in two of the TLV 
description that were written as complete sentences.

- In the grouping "ospfv3-prefix-sid-sub-tlvs" (p 21 and all resulting pieces 
of tree): s/perfix-sid-sub-tlvs/prefix-sid-sub-tlvs/
- In the same grouping, the description of the container should be "Prefix SID 
sub-TLV *list*." (and "Prefix SID sub-TLV." reserved for the following list 
element).
Fixed both in the module and tree (which was regenerated from tree).


- In the container "ti-lfa" (p 25): s/Enables TI-LFA/Enable TI-LFA/ [Not wrong, 
but should be consistent with others.]
Fixed.

- In the same container (p 26): "s/Topology Independent Loop Free 
Alternate/Topology-Independent Loop-Free Alternate/
Fixed in this place and in another.

- In section 3 (p 37): s/The YANG modules [...] define/The YANG module [...] 
defines/
Fixed.

- In the same section: s/in the modules/in the module/
Fixed.

- In the same section: s/Module ietf-ospf-sr/The module ietf-ospf-sr/
Fixed.

Thanks,
Acee



Thanks,

Julien


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