what I read is the suggestion to publish something where everything one the 
planet is becoming non-conformant for the fun of doing something new and 
forcing people to do something new with my assumption the author of the email 
won’t be the one implementing or deploying it. Moreover, the new proposals are 
not in anyway resolving the problem long term, only way we can resolve the 
problem properly is by designing a large fragment space which is a flagday by 
its nature and hence ain’t gonna happen until utter desperation hits and the 
protocol envelope is burnt to crisp. As to wisdom: people breaking IGPs by 
doing fun new things for the sake of doing fun new things do end up with 
limited career success in serious operators and vendors IME but yes, whether 
this is unwise or wise may depend on career goals pursuit …

anyway, this is all not particularly productive anymore, I outlined the reality 
of what can/will happen in the 2 preconditions that are set in stone and we are 
hitting here and best we can do now is probably wait until the alternate 
reality proposals fade …

I wish for the days Moy wouldn’t let anyone on the projector with his slides 
until stuff was implemented and trial deployed 😉


  *   tony



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From: Christian Hopps <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, 7 December 2023 at 11:59
To: Tony Przygienda <[email protected]>
Cc: Gyan Mishra <[email protected]>, Tony Li <[email protected]>, Yingzhen Qu 
<[email protected]>, [email protected] 
<[email protected]>, [email protected] 
<[email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv (11/17/2023 
- 12/09/2023)
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Tony Przygienda <[email protected]> writes:

> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 7:52 AM Gyan Mishra <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>     ...
>         Gyan> What Bruno is trying to provide I think strengthens the
>     draft with the MUST normative language for enable/disable
>     configuration controls.  As this is pre standard implementation
>     if the devices go out of compliance immediately that is “ok”  as
>     I see it all during incubation period trailblazing the new
>     features and comes with the territory.  So they would just have
>     to upgrade to RFC standard version to be back to compliance.
>
>
> more unwise words were seldom spoken

What is actually being said here, that in order to claim that one implements 
this new draft (once it becomes an RFC) one must implement it? I'm confused, as 
that's just reality, not sure what is "unwise".

Thanks,
Chris.

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