Tony,

I have always had high respect towards your opinion.
I am simply asking questions and concerns as an individual. Hope not getting 
into company A is better than company B debate.

Linda

From: Tony Li <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Li
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2023 4:44 PM
To: Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>
Cc: Yingzhen Qu <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]; lsr <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv (11/17/2023 
- 12/09/2023)


Hi Linda,




  *   Suppose the information to be carried by the  Extended IS Reachability 
(type 22) (in Example 4.1) is larger than 255. Does it mean the recipient will 
receive 2 TLVs (both with the Type 22) in one LSA? For legacy routers, the 
second TLV (Type =22) might overwrite  the first TLV.


Yes, a legacy implementation may well have bugs. The proposal is to fix that: 
expect MP-TLVs.

[Linda] Are you saying only the legacy implementation with bugs will be 
confused with two TLVs with the same Type  in in one LSA?


No. All implementations have bugs. This is reality.

Implementations that do not understand MP-TLV may be confused. Correct 
implementations of MP-TLV support will not be confused.



  *   Isn’t it more straightforward to have a new TYPE value for carrying the 
extra information beyond the 255 bytes? So, the legacy routers can ignore the 
TLVs with the unrecognized types.


You could do that, but code points are not free.  We certainly cannot afford 
another code point for each existing code point.  Using just one code point is 
less than helpful: it forces us to aggregate information that has no business 
being aggregated. Ignoring information is a non-starter because it makes 
partial deployments fatal: some of the domain operates with some information 
and some of the domain operates with different information.
[Linda] Why not consider having just one additional TYPE code with sub-types to 
indicate which original TLVs the value should be appended to?


We have considered it.  See all of Les’ emails for why it’s a bad idea.

If it helps simplify this debate: we know that you work for Futurewei/Huawei 
and that the discussion has polarized into your Big-TLV faction vs. everyone 
else. Repetition of previously made points add zero value to the discussion.

Tony

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