Acee -

Thanx for the quick review/suggestions.

Note that I used the name of the TLV as shown in 
https://www.iana.org/assignments/isis-tlv-codepoints/isis-tlv-codepoints.xhtml#tlv-codepoints
 - which differs from what is in the text of RFC 5308.

Happy to replace "global IPv6 Interface Address" with "non-link-local IPv6 
address" - but let's wait for Alvaro's response in case he wants further 
changes.

   Les


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Acee Lindem (acee) <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2022 2:36 PM
> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>; Alvaro Retana
> <[email protected]>; The IESG <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
> [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; Rob Wilton (rwilton)
> <[email protected]>; Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <[email protected]>; Lars
> Eggert <[email protected]>; Paul Wouters <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis-04: 
> (with
> DISCUSS)
> 
> Hi Les,
> 
> Looks good. See one suggestion.
> 
> On 9/24/22, 5:23 PM, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>     Alvaro -
> 
>     I have given your comments regarding clearer guidance on what value to
> use for router id more thought and tried to address this in V5 of the
> document (recently posted).
> 
>     I introduced a new sub-section "Choosing the TE Router ID Value",
> discussing how to choose the value for IPv4 and IPv6.
> 
> Consistent with the terminology in RFC 5308, I'd use " IPv6 Interface Address
> TLV" and " non-link-local IPv6 address" in the second paragraph.
> 
> Thanks,
> Acee
> 
>     Subsequent sections now refer to this section.
> 
>     Note that V5 also addresses comments from:
> 
>     Rob Wilton
>     Eric Vyncke
>     Lars Eggert
>     Paul Wouters
> 
>     Let me know if you still have concerns.
> 
>         Les
> 
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>
>     > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 9:30 PM
>     > To: Alvaro Retana <[email protected]>; The IESG <[email protected]>
>     > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
> [email protected];
>     > [email protected]; [email protected]
>     > Subject: RE: Alvaro Retana's Discuss on 
> draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis-04:
> (with
>     > DISCUSS)
>     >
>     > Alvaro -
>     >
>     > Please see inline.
>     >
>     > > -----Original Message-----
>     > > From: Alvaro Retana via Datatracker <[email protected]>
>     > > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 6:06 AM
>     > > To: The IESG <[email protected]>
>     > > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected];
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>     > > Subject: Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis-04:
> (with
>     > > DISCUSS)
>     > >
>     > > Alvaro Retana has entered the following ballot position for
>     > > draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis-04: Discuss
>     > >
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>     > >
>     > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     > > DISCUSS:
>     > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     > >
>     > > I am balloting DISCUSS because I believe the specification is not 
> clear
>     > enough.
>     > >
>     > > (1) The document recommends (5 separate times) that an ID "SHOULD
> be
>     > > identical
>     > > to the value advertised" in an existing TLV.
>     > >
>     > > If the other TLV is advertised, when is it ok for the values not to 
> be the
>     > > same?  Why is this action recommended and not required?
>     > >
>     > [LES:] The new text in Section 3.1 introduces a couple of new (as
> compared
>     > to the original RFC 5316 text) possibilities:
>     >
>     > 1)The non-zero value could be identical to what is advertised in TLV 134
> or it
>     > could be identical to what is advertised in TLV 132 (IP Interface 
> Address).
>     > This allows for cases where a Router ID is not configured but a stable
> unique
>     > IPv4 address is still advertised for the node.
>     >
>     > 2)The Router ID is 0.0.0.0 because we are dealing with an IPv6 only
>     > deployment.
>     >
>     > Now, I suppose we could say the Router ID field SHOULD/MUST be
> identical
>     > to TLV 134 except when TLV 134 isn't advertised (which is perfectly 
> legal
>     > BTW) - but I find such text awkward at best - and (as per my reply to 
> Tom
> et
>     > al) a MUST here is overly restrictive.
>     > Does this help address your concern?
>     >
>     > > Should the receiver of these TLVs take any action if the values are 
> not
>     > > identical?
>     >
>     > [LES:] No.
>     >
>     > >
>     > > (2) §3.1: The requirement for the Router ID to be unique within the
>     > flooding
>     > > scope of the LSP has been removed.
>     >
>     > [LES:] We are not changing anything about TLV 134 (AKA TE Router ID ) .
> But
>     > given the multiple ways the field in the inter AS TLV can be filled in, 
> it no
>     > longer seemed appropriate to make this statement.
>     > The need for uniqueness of the TE Router ID still exists - but it is the
> province
>     > of RFC 5305.
>     >
>     >    Les
>     >
>     > >
>     > > Please help me understand why this change is ok.  If the Router ID can
> be
>     > > used
>     > > to identify "the router who generates the inter-AS reachability TLV",
> not
>     > > requiring unique values seems to go counter to that idea.
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
> 

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