Hi, Robert:
How about when the RR locates in one area(for example, backbone area), but the 
PEs locates in the attached non-backbone area?
In such scenario, the RR can only receive the summary prefixes of PEs.

Aijun Wang
China Telecom

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 17:59, Robert Raszuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Aijun,
> 
>> [WAJ] X aims to how to withdraw the VPN prefixes with the mentioned extended 
>> communities, right?
> 
> Extended communities have nothing to do with this discussion at all. 
>  
>> Y aims to how assist the RR get the prefix cost from one node that other 
>> than the RR itself. Right?
> 
> No. 
>  
>> I think they all don’t answer the questions how to detect the failure of BGP 
>> peer. Right? For this requirement, you can only depend on the BGP hello 
>> timers, or BFD for BGP. Right?
> 
> Wrong. Let me explain. 
> 
> PEs peer with iBGP sessions to a pair of RR in a local area. In the vast 
> majority of cases those RRs are IGP nodes. If so in exactly the same way as 
> ABRs, also RRs will be receiving local area link state flooding about PEs 
> going down. 
> 
> That along with next hop tracking (local feature) will trigger event driven 
> service path invalidation followed by immediate withdrawal. Note that those 
> withdraws will be propagated via one or max two RR hops before reaching the 
> destination PE(s). That propagation speed is in milliseconds when measured 
> with solid BGP implementation. It can be much faster then flooding via 10s of 
> IGP nodes across two areas. 
> 
> If RRs are running on x86 blades they do not need to be IGP nodes, but 
> nothing stops them from being passive IGP listeners.
> 
> That is how you detect the failures local to your areas on the BGP RRs. The 
> trigger is exactly the same for RRs as is for ABRs. Has been done and 
> deployed for decades now and works perfectly fine. 
> 
>  
>> [WAJ] For SRv6 tunnel services, which layer control? How?
> 
> Something runs over those tunnels right ? If not we have no issue anyway as 
> there is no service to be protected or :).
> 
> Thx,
> R.
> 
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