> On Jun 5, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> If these are only implementation specific aspects and shouldn't get into the 
> draft, what is the point of sections 5,6,7?


these sections describe the requirements implementations must address. The way 
they address them is out of scope of the document.

s.



> Why would it hurt to say what is generally expected to be part of the 
> protocol machinery and what is not?

> 
> BTW, any known implementation for RFC 7810, also supporting sections 5,6,7?
> 
> Regards,
> Muthu
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Hi Muthu,
> 
>  
> 
> These are implementation specific aspects and I am not sure if this is 
> something that the draft should be getting into.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ketan
> 
>  
> 
> From: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <[email protected]> 
> Sent: 05 June 2018 17:19
> To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <[email protected]>
> Cc: Stefano Previdi (IETF) <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Jeff Tantsura 
> <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [Lsr] IGP TE Metric Extensions
> 
>  
> 
> Sounds reasonable to me..
> 
>  
> 
> Adding a clarification note in the draft would be useful, IMHO.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Muthu
> 
>  
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Muthu,
> 
>  
> 
> The Sections 5, 6 and 7 of these drafts are critical as it impacts the IGP 
> protocol operation and stability though it is not an integral part of the IGP 
> protocol machinery. This functionality in a system, whether achieved in the 
> IGP/measurement/some-other module, is an implementation specific aspect.
> 
>  
> 
> To answer your question, these aspects may be implemented outside the core 
> IGP module and the IGPs simply flood these while satisfying the aspects 
> specified in the document.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ketan
> 
>  
> 
> From: Lsr <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
> Sent: 05 June 2018 16:42
> To: Stefano Previdi (IETF) <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]; Jeff Tantsura <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Lsr] IGP TE Metric Extensions
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ​Please see inline..​
> 
>  
> 
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:34 AM, Stefano Previdi (IETF) <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, May 31, 2018, 6:15 PM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Jeff. Would be good to have this clarified in 
> 
> ​​
> 
> draft-ginsberg-isis-rfc7810bis. My original message seems to have been 
> stripped off, so including it again for the lsr list..
> 
>  
> 
> ​Both RFC 7810 and RFC 7471 say that:
> 
>  
> 
>    The measurement interval, any filter coefficients, and any
> 
>    advertisement intervals MUST be configurable per sub-TLV.
> 
>  
> 
>    Additionally, the default measurement interval for all sub-TLVs
> 
>    SHOULD be 30 seconds.
> 
>  
> 
> However, both RFCs initially say that they only describe mechanisms for 
> disseminating performance information and methods of measurements is outside 
> their scope.
> 
>  
> 
> Moreover, for a first time reader, it seems to suggest that the measurement 
> interval and filter coefficient must be supported and configurable under the 
> IGP.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> No. This is not suggested in any form.
> 
> It is clearly indicated that the draft does not deal with measurements which 
> means no recommendation is made.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> In a system supporting multiple IGPs, I would expect that they be implemented 
> outside the IGP and the IGPs just disseminate the information provided to 
> them.
> 
>  
> 
> Thoughts, especially from an implementation standpoint?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Again, the draft is only about dissemination, not measurements..
> 
>  
> 
> ​How is the measurement interval and filter coefficients described in the 
> draft related to dissemination?​
> 
>  
> 
> ​   The measurement interval, any filter coefficients, and any
> 
>    advertisement intervals MUST be configurable per sub-TLV.
> 
>  
> 
>    Additionally, the default measurement interval for all sub-TLVs
> 
>    SHOULD be 30 seconds.​
> 
>  
> 
> If your question is related to configuration and implementation of 
> measurements, well it will not be addressed by this draft.
> 
>  
> 
> We intentionally left out this part that does not belong to the igp protocol 
> machinery.
> 
>  
> 
> ​Which of the functionalities described in sections 5, 6, 7 of the draft 
> belong to the IGP protocol machinery?
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Muthu
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> s.
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>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Muthu
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Jeff Tantsura <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Muthu,
> 
> LSR would be a more suitable list to post to, CCed.
> 
> Regards,
> Jeff
> 
> > On May 30, 2018, at 18:06, Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Muthu
> 
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