caro walter,

muito obrigado pela sua atuaçao e por tornar publica a sua atuação!

eu infelizmente estou atrasado na reaçao em funcao de outros projetos. nao
tava vendo esta lista.

mas tenha certeza que voce esta inspirando muitos jovens. (bem, pelo menos,
esta me inspirando...)

abracos do recife,
marcos

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 6:51 AM Walter Carnielli <walter.carnie...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> De: Luis Estrada González <loisayaxseg...@gmail.com>
>
> Dear Walter,
>
> First of all, I hope that you and all your beloved ones are doing well in
> these difficult times.
>
> I am not subscribed to Logica-L but I happened to know about your fair
> complaint about the Beth Prize. If there's anything I can do to help in
> making your demand louder, please count me in. I agree with you that, given
> the current academic situation, being awarded a prize like that, or at
> least short-liest for it, is very important for students outside the U.S.
> and (Central) Europe. Pretending that prizes don't matter won't help us.
> (Whether they should matter is a different question, and I don't have an
> opinion on that.) I'm still the youngest faculty member of my Institute;
> I'm very grateful for having left the job market several years ago, but I
> share with my students some pressures from the profession, and I feel the
> additional pressure of forming them for a dark future. I don't want them to
> be that kind of person who lives to publish in the "top" journals, but
> certainly, they should be able to do so because the job market requires it.
> It's the same when it comes to prizes: I don't want my students to do
> research to win them, but they should be able to be awarded, and being
> actually awarded would be career-boost especially because they won't be
> Stanford or MCMP graduates.
>
> Having said that, raising our voices on the unfair geographical/political
> distribution and getting proper recognition from them is half of the task.
> I think we should start thinking about a more balanced future: we can also
> evaluate *them*, they should look for our recognition too. That doesn't
> mean that we should give up to compete for the traditional awards, but that
> we can start another tradition of respectable prizes open to everybody,
> although judged by people from our region, more aware of the difficulties
> that non-U.S., non-European researchers face in becoming excellent. The
> world would take very seriously a prize awarded by a committee consisting
> of Aliseda, Barrio, Becher, Carnielli, Di Prisco, Freund and Zalamea, to
> name a few. If we do it well, in using e.g. the ASL resources and making
> the Latin-American branch more explicit and more visible, in 10 years such
> prizes would be as wanted as the Beth Prize, and hopefully more balanced
> than it. And the initiative should be ours, we can't wait for another
> Abraham Robinson.
>
> Apologies for the long message. Please receive my warmest regards from
> Mexico City,
>
> Luis
>
> --
> Luis Estrada-González | https://unam.academia.edu/LuisEstradaGonzález
>
> Interested in my research? See two of my latest works published:
>
> "Knot is not that nasty (but it is hardier than tonk)"
> <https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11229-019-02498-x> (with
> Ellie Ramírez-Cámara), *Synthese*.
>
> "A Nelsonian response to 'the most embarrassing of all twelfth-century
> arguments'
> <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01445340.2019.1656992>" (with
> Ellie Ramírez-Cámara), *History and Philosophy and Logic*.
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Philosophy Department
Federal University of Pernambuco, Brazil
Editor-in-chief Revista Perspectiva Filosófica
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