2011/7/27 Rubén Romero y Cordero <hua...@ubuntu.com>: > 2011/7/19 Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com>: >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Chris Johnston <chrisjohns...@ubuntu.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> 2011/7/19 Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com>: >> >>> >>> I >>> can't see why that isn't utilized by the entire Spanish community >>> across the planet. Maybe whoever runs the Spanish resources should >>> reach out to the other Spanish speaking teams and offer to >>> collaborate, I don't know. >>> >> >> It doesn't work that way. >> The UOW in Spanish is a great example; the first edition was organised by >> the six Central American teams. Eventually, the project grew and we created >> the Ubuntu-es Classroom team in order to organise the UOW, UUD and similar >> events. >> The thing is that we didn't create a new structure in first place. We did it >> when we felt there was a need for it, not before. >> > > Indeed. I was for a long time advocating for cross-polinization and > cooperation work for all Spanish speaking LoCo teams within the > Launchpad Framework. We had meetings with most Spanish speaking LoCo > contacts and key community members across the globe and even if we > understood and tried to get our communities to work together. It > didn't. Members always default to their Local team (be it language > based or national) or regional conglomerates in their continent (i.e. > Central-America, the Nordics). > > As Leandro points out: Successful local projects are growing > organically. This is happening within communities with commitment, > vision, good leadership and that are meeting a need their local > communities have. > > Our communities are not growing. The traction we had the first years > is gone. The Ubuntu Community needs to get that great spirit back or > see itself fall apart. I am very sorry to say this but it is time to > face it! > > This whole thread is about putting everyone within the LoCo Directory > framework and create a dashboard for the LoCo council, the way I see > it. The last thing we need is a LoCo Council who tries to streamline > us and oblige us to do this and that. WE are not a corporation, WE are > a community. The solution is NOT the LoCo directory (too little, too
WE are on the same team. Feedback is welcome, but please keep your tone friendly. We are here on our free time to help you guys in any way we can. We're not getting paid. We're just like you. We're just trying to make life easy. If you want a Council that sits around and does nothing, I'm sure we'd get complaints about that too. Let's move *forward* constructively. I don't need to get hate thrown at the LC, since we're just trying to help. > late). That is not great vision and leadership! This seems to be done > in order to satisfy a need of a minimal group in the community, and > not the community as a whole. AND it is not solving any problem. This > seems very bureaucratic to me and with the scarce resources we have, > the last thing we need is senseless and endless discussions which are > not addressing a problem the community has. > > Probably I should open another thread on this subject, but I won't. I > am getting tired of all this talk and little action. Before I had a > lot of fun with the Ubuntu community. The last time I did is now a > while ago. > > Am I exaggerating? I think not. Please correct me if I am wrong. > > > Regards, > - > Rubén Romero > https://launchpad.net/~huayra > > -- > loco-contacts mailing list > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts > -- All programmers are playwrights, and all computers are lousy actors. #define sizeof(x) rand() :wq -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
