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Looks like a LoCo to me :) -Paul On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Alan Pope <a...@popey.com> wrote: > Hi Martin, > > On 9 June 2010 14:07, Martin Owens <docto...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Clarification on the current state of the Massachusetts LoCo team and >> the tarnishing of our good name on this mailing list: >> > > It wasn't my intention to besmirch the good name of your LoCo. I was > merely trying to highlight that Dannys perceptions are probably based > on the activities he's experienced in his local team(s) and as such > may not apply to all LoCos, hence a wholesale 'this is how it is, so > we should move to libreplanet' might be somewhat misguided if based on > false assumptions. > >> On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 13:29 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: >> We will gladly accept people from the entire spectrum of FOSS, if we >> were holding an event with Fedora then I'd expect to see both Ubuntu and >> Fedora CDs. Of course the only people we've had trouble with is the FSF >> who don't like Ubuntu CDs given out at their events, fair enough I >> suppose. >> > > Indeed, if you're running the show then you get to set the rules. If > the FSF run an event I would fully expect them to require hazmat suits > when touching apple equipment, and a propensity towards using wired > over wifi. :) > > However (and this is my beef) _if_ Dannys proposition (remember it's > titled "_move_ to libreplanet", not "_join_ libreplanet as well as > your loco") is to do exactly that then we fall under the spell of the > FSF when attending LibrePlanet events. As such it would be almost > certainly verboten to distribute the evil tainted Ubuntu CDs (despite > them having a 'free software only' installation option). > > Note the GNU wiki that is linked from LibrePlanet lists almost _no_ > LUGs in the UK despite there being over a hundred of them. This is > either an oversight on their part, or could it be because they are > LUGs and not GNU/LUGs? > >>> So don't. Use a LUG/FLOSS banner instead or as well as. >> >> The MA LoCo doesn't have a FOSS/LUG banner, so this even was an Ubuntu >> event and it was unfortunate that the people couldn't get over >> themselves to promote FOSS, but the event went down and it was very >> successful. >> > > I realise that Danny implied both a literal and actual banner, my > reply was more literal. I probably should have phrased it as "Attend > the event under a LUG/FLOSS name instead or as well as". I'm certainly > not suggesting that the LoCo should fund banners for every other > non-LoCo team in the area, but merely use the name / brand of that > group (with their permission and/or attendance) if appropriate. > >>> Perhaps that says more about your group that people feel it's >>> exclusive, than Ubuntu or indeed the people themselves. Also note that >>> in every community there are people who don't/won't contribute for >>> some reason or another. >> >> I hope not, I've worked hard to make sure that our culture is inclusive >> that people have self authority to go out there and run all kinds of >> events, get together and be polite and kindly with each other. > > I think you might have misunderstood my point. In every community > there are people who lurk, this is normal. They subscribe to 'our' > mailing lists, watch discussion in the irc channels and read the > forums. We should not be expecting 100% of them to contribute. If we > do, then we're going to be sorely disappointed, it won't happen. You > can't _make_ people contribute. You can set the conditions so that > they _might_ if they want to, but you can't force them, and I wouldn't > want to see a LoCo try. > >> I hope I've made clear that the LoCo isn't loco. >> > > Sure, sorry if it sounded like I was picking on your loco, I wasn't. > >> Also look kindly towards Danny, I don't think he means to suggest that >> LoCo teams be shut down, but that their membership might be interested >> in joining another team. >> > > "Ubuntu LoCo's should move to LibrePlanet " is an incredibly poor > choice of subject, and the content doesn't match what you describe if > that is indeed Dannys intention. Perhaps Danny can clarify himself? > > Cheers, > Al. > > -- > loco-contacts mailing list > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts > -- #define sizeof(x) rand() :wq -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
