Hi Tom, interesting problem you're working on there.

I'm not sure any of the DWARF expression operators would work here.  You want 
to have an expression that works for a given frame, saying "to find the 
caller's pc value, look at the saved-pc stack, third entry from the bottom of 
that stack."  But that would require generating a different DWARF expression 
for the frame each time it shows up in a backtrace - which is unlike lldb's 
normal design of having an UnwindPlan for a function which is computed once and 
reused for the duration of the debug session.

I supposed you could add a user-defined DW_OP which means "get the current 
stack frame number" and then have your expression deref the emulated saved-pc 
stack to get the value?

lldb uses an intermediate representation of unwind information (UnwindPlan) 
which will use a DWARF expression, but you could also add an entry to 
UnwindPlan::Row::RegisterLocation::RestoreType which handled this, I suppose.


> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:46 AM, Thomas Goodfellow via lldb-dev 
> <lldb-dev@lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm adding LLDB support for an unconventional platform which uses two
> stacks: one purely for return addresses and another for frame context
> (spilled registers, local variables, etc). There is no explicit link
> between the two stacks, i.e. the frame context doesn't include any
> pointer or index to identify the return address: the epilog for a
> subroutine amounts to unwinding the frame context then finally popping
> the top return address from the return stack. It has some resemblance
> to the Intel CET scheme of shadow stacks, but without the primary
> stack having a copy of the return address.
> 
> I can extend the emulation of the platform to better support LLDB. For
> example while the real hardware platform provides no access to the
> return address stack the emulation can expose it in the memory map,
> provide an additional debug register for querying it, etc, which DWARF
> expressions could then extract return addresses from. However doing
> this seems to require knowing the frame number and I haven't found a
> way of doing this (a pseudo-register manipulated by DWARF expressions
> worked but needed some LLDB hacks to sneak it through the existing
> link register handling, also seemed likely to be unstable against LLDB
> implementation changes)
> 
> Is there a way to access the call frame number (or a reliable proxy)
> from a DWARF expression? Or an existing example of unwinding a shadow
> stack?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
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