The simplest thing possible to reproduce the failure.  So some OS_Plugin 
implementation which tries to look up a global like this and fails, and some 
program source I can run it under that provides said global.  That way I can 
easily watch it fails as you describe when the plugin gets activated, and see 
why it isn’t allowing this call on private stop.

Jim


> On Feb 14, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Alexander Polyakov <polyakov....@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Sure, could you describe in more detail which example may help you?
> 
> чт, 14 февр. 2019 г. в 22:36, Jim Ingham <jing...@apple.com 
> <mailto:jing...@apple.com>>:
> That’s a little complicated…  
> 
> lldb has two levels of stop state - private stops and public stops.  When the 
> process gets notification from the underlying process plugin that the process 
> stopped, it raises a private stop event.  That gets handled by the ShouldStop 
> mechanism on the private state thread in lldb, and then if the stop is judged 
> interesting to the user, it gets rebroadcast as a public stop.
> 
> For instance, when you issue a “step” command, lldb will stop and start the 
> process multiple times as it walks through the source line.  But only the 
> last of those stops are relevant to the user of LLDB, so all the other ones 
> exist only as private stops.
> 
> The SB API’s for the most part should only consider a “publicly stopped” 
> process accessible.  After all, you wouldn’t want some API to succeed 
> sometimes if you happen to catch it in the middle of a private stop.
> 
> But the OperatingSystem plugin needs to get called right after a private 
> stop, so it can provide threads for the ShouldStop mechanism.  We should 
> really have some formal mechanism whereby things like the OS plugin can 
> request elevated rights in the SB API’s, so that they can run at private stop 
> time.  IIRC, we instead have a hack where SB API calls that run on the 
> private state thread are blanket allowed to run at private stop.  The xnu 
> Operating System plugin successfully gets global values to look up its 
> threads.  So I’m not sure why that isn’t working for you.
> 
> Can you cook up a simple example showing the failure and I’ll have a look?
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Alexander Polyakov <polyakov....@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:polyakov....@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> It is, the error is: error: error: process must be stopped.
>> 
>> I thought that the plugin (get_thread_info in my case) is invoked when the 
>> process is already stopped, but it's not. Is it ok?
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:53 PM Jim Ingham <jing...@apple.com 
>> <mailto:jing...@apple.com>> wrote:
>> All SBValues have an error in them (SBValue.GetError).  Does that say 
>> anything interesting?
>> 
>> Jim
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Alexander Polyakov via lldb-dev 
>>> <lldb-dev@lists.llvm.org <mailto:lldb-dev@lists.llvm.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi lldb-dev,
>>> 
>>> I work on a custom implementation of OperatingSystem plugin using Python 
>>> and SB API. I’m trying to fetch information about some variables from the 
>>> target into the plugin, to do that I’m using the following Python code:
>>> ready_tasks = self._target.FindGlobalVariables(‘pxReadyTasksLists’, 
>>> 1).GetValueAtIndex(0)
>>>  
>>> When I do `print(ready_tasks)` I get:
>>> No value
>>>  
>>> At the same time, doing the same actions inside lldb embedded interpreter 
>>> follows to:
>>> ` 
>>> print(lldb.target.FindGlobalVariables('pxReadyTasksLists',1).GetValueAtIndex(0))`
>>>  
>>> (List_t [5]) pxReadyTasksLists = {
>>>   [0] = {
>>>     uxNumberOfItems = 0
>>>     pxIndex = 0x00000000
>>>     xListEnd = {
>>>       xItemValue = 0
>>>       pxNext = 0x00000000
>>>       pxPrevious = 0x00000000
>>>     }
>>>   }
>>> …
>>>  
>>> Does anybody know what may cause such a behavior?
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Alexander
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>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Alexander
> 
> -- 
> Alexander

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