Feel free to abstract if you need to. The page you sent me to has _very_ simple 
locations that would convert to DWARF expressions very easily. Probably less 
that a hundred lines of code.

If you need to abstract, making a lldb_private::Location class that 
DWARFExpression would implement the needed pure virtuals. Then each things that 
contains DWARFExpression would now contain a lldb_private::LocationSP which 
would be a shared pointer to a lldb_private::Location. DWARFExpression has 
grown over the years to contain a bunch of evaluate variants.

Just know that LLDB lazily parses things. We don't say "convert the entire PDB 
into the internal LLDB format now!". We say "get the line table for this one 
compile unit". Find the function for address "0x123000" and parse it. Later we 
will ask to get the function type and its args. Later, if we ever need to, we 
will lazily parse the blocks in the function. Nothing is parsed in full.

Let me know what you want to do. Abstraction is great, but comes at a cost of 
breaking things when our tests don't cover everything, so that is a worry on my 
end with any large changes...


> On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Zachary Turner <ztur...@google.com> wrote:
> 
> The only "spec" is the API that allows you to access the info.  There's no 
> spec of the bit format.  This is probably all you are actually looking for 
> though:
> 
> The problem isn't necessarily that one is more pwoerful than the other, it's 
> just that PDBs can get huge (on the order of gigabytes), and converting 
> between formats is an unnecessary step that a) will be slow to do the 
> conversion, b) might not map 1 to 1 between the formats, and c) it' already 
> trivial (on the order of a few lines of code) to just query the PDB for 
> everything you need.
> 
> So we're talking about potentially thousands of lines of code to do something 
> that would take about 10 (as well as being more efficient) with a proper 
> abstraction.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:43 AM Greg Clayton <gclay...@apple.com> wrote:
> See my other email. You can abstract this, but it doesn't seem worth it 
> unless PDB has some really powerful way to express variable locations?
> 
> > On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Zachary Turner via lldb-dev 
> > <lldb-dev@lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> >
> > Can we abstract this somehow?  Converting all my debug info to DWARF seems 
> > like a non-starter, as it doesn't look like you can just do it partially, 
> > you have to go all the way (just based on glancing at the DWARFExpression 
> > header file)
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:38 AM Jim Ingham <jing...@apple.com> wrote:
> > lldb uses DWARF expressions internally as a convenient language to 
> > represent locations of values.  We had to pick some representation, and the 
> > DWARF expression was powerful enough for our purposes, meant we didn't have 
> > to reinvent something that already existed, and had the added benefit that 
> > if you did your DWARF then you don't have to transcode.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > > On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Zachary Turner via lldb-dev 
> > > <lldb-dev@lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Also why does the lldb_private::Variable() class take a DWARFExpression 
> > > to its constructor?  Seems like this is wrong in the face of non-DWARF 
> > > debug information.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:02 AM Zachary Turner <ztur...@google.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > > I'm trying to implement this function for PDB.  There are two overloads:
> > >
> > > uint32_t
> > > FindGlobalVariables (const ConstString &name, const CompilerDeclContext 
> > > *parent_decl_ctx, bool append, uint32_t max_matches, VariableList& 
> > > variables)
> > >
> > > uint32_t
> > > FindGlobalVariables(const RegularExpression& regex, bool append, uint32_t 
> > > max_matches, VariableList& variables)
> > >
> > > I know how to implement the second overload, but not the first.  What is 
> > > a CompilerDeclContext?  Some comments in the DWARF implementation of the 
> > > function seem to imply it's related to namespaces, but there's a lot of 
> > > strange code that I don't understand.  What is the relationship between a 
> > > namespace and a symbol file?  And why does 
> > > `DeclContextMatchesThisSymbolFile` contain no code at all that accesses 
> > > any property of the symbol file?  It just checks if 
> > > decl_ctx->GetTypeSystem()->GetMinimumLanguage(nullptr) == 
> > > decl_ctx->GetTypeSystem(), which appears to have nothing to do with any 
> > > symbol file.
> > >
> > > What user command or debugger operation results in FindGlobalVariables 
> > > getting called with this particular overload, and how does it build the 
> > > CompilerDeclContext?
> > >
> > > On another note, why is the decl context stored as void* instead of 
> > > having an actual wrapper with an abstract interface such as 
> > > ClangDeclContext / JavaDeclContext, etc that all inherit from 
> > > LanguageDeclContext, and pass the LanguageDeclContext around instead of a 
> > > void*?
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