zequanwu added inline comments.

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Comment at: lldb/test/Shell/SymbolFile/DWARF/x86/debug_loc.s:28-29
 # CHECK:     Variable{{.*}}, name = "x0", {{.*}}, scope = parameter, location =
 # CHECK-NEXT:  [0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000001): DW_OP_reg5 RDI
 # CHECK-NEXT:  [0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000006): DW_OP_reg0 RAX
 # CHECK:     Variable{{.*}}, name = "x1", {{.*}}, scope = parameter
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labath wrote:
> zequanwu wrote:
> > labath wrote:
> > > zequanwu wrote:
> > > > labath wrote:
> > > > > zequanwu wrote:
> > > > > > `image dump symfile` already prints valid ranges for variables 
> > > > > > along with where the value is at each range.
> > > > > Are you sure it does?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was under the impression that there are two distinct range concepts 
> > > > > being combined here. One is the range list member of the Variable 
> > > > > object (as given by `GetScopeRange` -- that's the one you're printing 
> > > > > now), and the other is the list of ranges hidden in the 
> > > > > DWARFExpression object, which come from the debug_loc(lists) section 
> > > > > (that's the one we've been printing so far). And that the root cause 
> > > > > of the confusion is the very existence of these two concepts.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If I got it wrong, then do let me know, cause it would make things a 
> > > > > lot simpler if there is only one validity concept to think about.
> > > > Dwarf plugin is supposed to construct the `m_scope_range` member of an 
> > > > Variable, but it doesn't. `scope_ranges` is empty at 
> > > > https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/main/lldb/source/Plugins/SymbolFile/DWARF/SymbolFileDWARF.cpp#L3468.
> > > >  
> > > > `image dump symfile` dumps the dwarf location list in `m_location` in 
> > > > `Variable`. 
> > > > The dwarf location list has more information than `m_scope_range` as it 
> > > > contains info about where the value is during each range. (e.g. which 
> > > > register the variable lives in). 
> > > > 
> > > > So, I think we need to use similar logic to construct `m_scope_range` 
> > > > when creating `Variable` in dwarf plugin like this 
> > > > https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/main/lldb/source/Expression/DWARFExpression.cpp#L145.
> > > Ok, I see where you're coming from. You're essentially saying that the 
> > > fact that the dwarf plugin does not fill this out is a bug.
> > > 
> > > I don't think that's the case. My interpretation was (and [[ 
> > > https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/main/lldb/source/Symbol/Variable.cpp#L313
> > >  | this comment]] confirms it) that an empty range here means the entire 
> > > enclosing block. (Also, DWARF was for a long time the only symbol file 
> > > plugin, so what it does is kinda "correct by definition").
> > > 
> > > I don't think we want to change that interpretation, as forcing a copy of 
> > > the range in the location list would be wasteful (it would be different 
> > > if this was an interface that one could query, and that the dwarf plugin 
> > > could implement by consulting the location list). However, since the 
> > > dwarf class does not actually make use of this functionality (it was [[ 
> > > https://reviews.llvm.org/D17449 | added ]] to support DW_AT_start_scope, 
> > > then broken at some point, and eventually [[ 
> > > https://reviews.llvm.org/D62302 | removed ]]), we do have some freedom in 
> > > defining the interactions of the two fields (if you still want to pursue 
> > > this, that is).
> > > 
> > > So how about this: if the user passes the extra flag, then we print both 
> > > the range field (if it exists), and the *full* location list (in that 
> > > order, ideally). That way the output will be either `range = [a, b), [c, 
> > > d), location = DW_OP_reg47` or `location = [a,b) -> DW_OP_reg4, [c,d) -> 
> > > DW_OP_reg7`. If the dwarf plugin starts using the range field again then 
> > > the output will contain both fields, which will be slightly confusing, 
> > > but at least not misleading (and we can also change the format then).
> > Oh, I think I misunderstood `m_scope_range`. It's the range list where the 
> > variable is valid regardless whether its value is accessible or not (valid 
> > range). As for `m_location` in `Variable`, it's describing the ranges where 
> > the value is (value range). They are not the same. 
> > 
> > So, currently how NativePDB creates local Variable's range is not correct. 
> > That only works when it's not optimized build such that the valid range is 
> > the same as the value range. It still need to create dwarf location lists 
> > to correctly represent the value range, but as mentioned [[ 
> > https://reviews.llvm.org/D119508#3319113 | here ]], we need to choose a 
> > generic "variable location provider" interface for that.
> > 
> > Oh, I think I misunderstood m_scope_range. It's the range list where the 
> > variable is valid regardless whether its value is accessible or not (valid 
> > range). As for m_location in Variable, it's describing the ranges where the 
> > value is (value range).
> 
> Yes, that was my initial assumption as well, and I think that is the only 
> interpretation in which it makes sense to have two sources of range 
> information for a variable. However, I've done some research since then, and 
> I haven't found any compiler or debugger which would model the program 
> sufficiently precisely to be able to make that distinction.
> 
> There are definite limits as to how far you can go with pdb using these 
> abstractions, but given they (the m_scope_range) exist, I think you could 
> make use of them (as you've done now), if they are sufficient for your 
> current use case. That said, I would definitely encourage you to create a 
> better abstraction for providing the location information for a variable.
I think you meant to replace `DWARFExpression` with a more generic interface 
which has the same functionalities as `DWARFExpression`. That seems a lot work, 
especially on `DWARFExpression::Evaluate`. 


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