Thanks Lluis, your description is very comprehensive, and a valuable,
unbiased summary of OSGeo-Live's strengths and weaknesses in a teaching
environment.
I expect this summary will be something that others will want to
reference in future, and as such, I would like to copy it into a public
location.
I'm thinking that we should either set up a testimony wiki page, or
include testimonies in our existing history page. (I'm currently erring
toward adding this testimony into the history page).
Does this make sense?
On 29/07/2014 2:10 am, Lluís Vicens wrote:
On 19/06/14 23:19, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Hi Carson,
Thanks for the question re how OSGeo-Live should be used within a
training setting.
This is a question we have received a few times now, and I'm
interested to hear thoughts from others who have used, or wish to use
OSGeoLive in an educational setting.
What is are the key use cases we are aiming to address regarding use
of OSGeo-Live in an educational setting, and in particular, what
needs are required from an educator's perspective?
Is a VM suitable?
What datasets are required?
Is a standard OSGeo-Live distribution sufficient, or do trainers need
to download and install specific things for their course?
Dear Cameron and others,
I'll try to summarize our use of the OSGeo-Live in our educational
activities such as the Spanish FOSS4G workshop, summer school on GIS,
UNIGIS MSc ...
As a global assessment, we must admit that we are pretty happy about
the overall behaviour of the OSGeo-Live. We have been using it in most
of the Spanish foss4g workshops[1], covering a broad range of issues
and themes such as GIS Desktop Workshops (QGIS, gvSIG, GRASS, PostGIS
and pgRouting, ... even JASPA), Programming workshops (Integration of
geospatial free technologies, Introduction to python for geospatial
applications, programming new applications for Sextante, ...), Web
Applications Workshops (Introduction to MapProxy, Developing Web
Applications with AngularJS and Leaflet, OpenLayers and GeoServer,
...), and other specific workshops such as the integration of OSM data
+ imposm + TileMill, ...
We generally don't need to install extra packages and libraries but,
if need it, we can do it without arising too many problems. So, in
general terms, there are no remarkable problems installing new pieces
of software.
Sometimes the tricky issue is that the host pc has low RAM memory, so
we can't assign more than 2Gb, to the virtual machine. But, I suppose
that this has nothing to do with the OSGeo-Live.
We have intensively used the OSGeo-Live to conduct the whole Summer
School each July [2], with a pretty good performance. Sometimes, we
had some troubles with few machines (slow performance, some crashes,
etc...) but without a clear and concrete reason. Just happens. :)
However, during this edition we encountered a problem with OpenJump
and PostGIS. Each time we tried to configure a new connection to a
PostGIS database, OpenJump started to freeze...
Regarding to the datasets, we have been using Natural Earth data and
OSM data included on the distro, as well as some external datasets.
Nothing to mention in here. Good performance in every sense.
Last but not least, within the UNIGIS MSc framework, we really
encourage students to make use of the OSGeo-Live DVD for their
assignments and practical work. UNIGIS is a online MSc so sometimes,
it's a little bit difficult to help students to properly install and
make use of the OSGeo-Live virtual disk. This could take some time but
nothing specially relevant. The big issue, for those who are not
familiar with a new OS, is to not enter in a state of panic the first
time they see a linux environment in front of their eyes... alone :)
In a face-to-face courses, this is more easy to handle than in an
online course but with a little bit of patience and positive attitude,
this is not a barrier.
In summary, using OSGeo-Live virtual disk has a double positive
result: discovering and working with foss4g, as well as discovering a
new OS.
Thanks to all the OSGeo-Live crew for their work and passion. Good job!
[1] http://www.sigte.udg.edu/jornadassiglibre
[2] http://www.sigte.udg.edu/summerschool2014/
On 19/06/2014 9:36 am, Carson Farmer wrote:
Hi Cameron, we aren't using it (right now), but it *has* been
discussed. Students will have access to their own virtual machine
during the course, so using the OSGeo-Live image is an option. Part
of the course involves installing some of the required apps, so we
weren't sure if we wanted to go with the pre-installed stuff on
OSGeo-Live... having said that, I guess we could work with a
modified version. Any thoughts on this? Additionally, we will be
*telling* students about OSGeo-Live, and they will leave with that
as a resource.
Cheers,
Carson
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Suchith,
Will this course make use of OSGeo-Live? If so I'd be keen to
add the details to our history page:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_History
Keeping track of how OSGeo-Live is used provides the motivation
and business justifications people and organisations use to
justify contributing to OSGeo-Live.
I'd also like to hear from any others making use of OSGeo-Live
such that we can add your use to this page.
On 18/06/2014 10:57 pm, Suchith Anand wrote:
*From:*carsten.kess...@gmail.com
<mailto:carsten.kess...@gmail.com>
[mailto:carsten.kess...@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Carsten Kessler
*Sent:* 18 June 2014 13:45
*To:* ucgis-all
*Subject:* Free and Open Source GIS course – Aug 4–8 @ Hunter
College, NYC
Dear all,
we will be offering a five day professional training course on
FOSS GIS at Hunter college, NYC, the first week of August:
http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ce/gis
Feel free to forward the course description below to potential
participants.
Best,
Carsten Kessler
*FREE AND OPEN SOURCE GIS*
*August 4 to August 8, 2014, 9 AM to 5 PM*
The Department of Geography at Hunter College of the City
University of New York and Hunter Continuing Education are
offering a five day professional course in
*Free and Open Source GIS*. This five day course will span the
entire range of GIS data capture, management, analysis, and
visualization of geographic information
using Free and Open Source Software (FOSS). These different
elements of the GIS workflow will be discussed over the first
four days and will then be applied in a final project completed
on Friday. The course will combine lectures with hands-on
sessions where participants will work with
different free and open source GIS packages. Since we expect
participants from many different organizations in the tri-state
area, this training course also presents an excellent
networking opportunity.
The course is designed for experienced GIS users who want to
broaden their skill set with expertise in the ever-growing
world of free and open source GIS. Participants are expected to
have a technical background and an interest in developing
comprehensive workflows using multiple software components.
While we do not require any programming experience, we will be
working on the command line and developing some small scripts.
Participants should be eager to master these valuable skills.
_Instructors_
Carson Farmer and Carsten Kessler are Associate Directors
of the Center for Advanced Research of Spatial Information
(CARSI Lab) and Assistant Professors for Geographic
Information Science in the Department of Geography at
Hunter College ‐ CUNY.
Carson <http://carsonfarmer.com/> has been working
with open source GIS projects, including as core developer for
QGIS, since 2007. His research interests revolve around
movements and flows of individuals, information, and
commodities within urban environments, and the development and
implementation of novel spatial analysis methods and software
aimed at characterizing these flows.
Carsten <http://carsten.io/> has extensive experience in
projects around open data and the exchange of geographic
information, both in international research projects and as a
consultant. His research interests are in the areas of
information integration, volunteered geographic information,
emergency management, and collaborative and participatoryGIS.
Both instructors will be present for the duration of the course
to support the participants in the hands-on exercises.
_Location, registration and fees_
The course will be held at the Department of Geography's
computer lab in the Hunter North building at Lexington and
68th Street, Manhattan. Registration fee for this course is
$1800 and includes access to computers and server space to
run the exercises.
For more detailed information or to register, visit
http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ce/gisor contact the Hunter
Continuing Education office at 212-650-3850
<tel:212-650-3850> or c...@hunter.cuny.edu
<mailto:c...@hunter.cuny.edu> .
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