Ah. Thank you, that makes sense.

Greg

> On Apr 24, 2015, at 09:55 , Adam Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It's not a routing issue, it's a bug/mis-feature in FreeBSD's IPSec stack.
> See 
> https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Why_can%27t_I_query_SNMP,_use_syslog,_NTP,_or_other_services_initiated_by_the_firewall_itself_over_IPsec_VPN
>  for more info.
> -Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 04/24/2015 09:37 AM, Gregory K Shenaut wrote:
>> I have two pfSense boxes connected via an IPSEC tunnel.
>> 
>> I'm confused about whether a route gets added automatically to the remote 
>> network end of an IPSEC tunnel when the tunnel comes up. I was under the 
>> impression that there was no need to be concerned with routing between the 
>> two subnets within the pfSense boxes, that they would “know” about a remote 
>> subnet and route to it automatically.
>> 
>> However, currently the tunnel can be up, hosts in either remote subnet can 
>> ping each other, but the pfSense boxes themselves can't ping hosts in the 
>> remote subnet, including the LAN address of the other pfSense host to which 
>> they are connected.
>> 
>> And if I do add a static route, what should I use as the gateway? Devices in 
>> the local subnet just use the LAN address as the gateway, but that doesn't 
>> seem appropriate for the pfSense box. The tunnel goes out over the WAN 
>> address, but using that as the pfsense box's gateway to the remote subnet 
>> doesn't seem right either.
>> 
>> While in this anomalous state, if I look at the IPSEC status, I see the 
>> correct networks in Local subnets and Remote subnets in both boxes. Both 
>> boxes have only a “pass all ipv4” firewall rule for IPSEC. If I look at the 
>> routing tables, there is no route to the remote subnet.
>> 
>> I also have dead peer detection enabled, which if I understand it correctly, 
>> requires that the other side's LAN address be pingable.
>> 
>> What could cause this situation, and what is the solution?
>> 
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> 
>> Greg Shenaut
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